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Pritzker unveils new decontamination system - Announces recent additions to nursing home assistance - Ezike: 14,478 tests in past 24 hours - Pritzker says Cabello lawsuit “grandstanding” - Explains current stance on small businesses - “There’s nothing barring the legislature meeting” - Says will offer guidance to GA on how to convene - Says (again) that virtual GA meetings are not allowed - “That’s up to the legislature” - Says AG has filed for leave to appeal Bailey suit to IL Supreme Court - Concealed carry permit holders can wear masks - Workers “should be provided PPE by their hospital” - Dr. Ezike urges “stay the course” - More questions on regionalization - Updates on McCormick Place - Wants to help frontline workers with some sort of aid - Will look into firing range question - Explains what can happen to businesses that reopen without permission - Addresses “excess deaths” issue - Says he has listened to Downstaters - Property tax deadlines are local matters - Says (again) that he isn’t closing borders - Biz should refuse service to those who don’t wear masks - Would like to see hair salons opened “sooner rather than later” - Says not enough worker protection in new DPA order on food processors - Not involved in SEIU strike talks - Says IDOC release number includes prisoners who have completed sentences - Says EO is not indefinite - Talks about hospitalization - Says letters from mayors “extremely instructive” -

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* The governor began his press conference with some news about the PPE equipment the state has deployed, received and requested. He then said this

We recently acquired a new decontamination system, currently deployed in Waukegan. This system can safely decontaminate and 95 masks and is an entirely free service with turnaround time of about 24 hours. I can’t overstate how important this in state resource is to our ability to help our hospitals our health care workers, our law enforcement officials and frontline workers. Each and 95 mask can be decontaminated up to 20 times without experiencing any degradation of filter performance.

IEMA is disseminating the instructions for the service to all local emergency managers, health departments and regional health care coalitions. And the information is also available on the ready, Illinois website as well. I highly encourage all healthcare entities from hospitals to long term care facilities to take advantage of this equipment, through EEMA. Again it’s fast, it’s free and it will help us help you.

As always, please pardon all transcription errors.

* He went on to talk about some new nursing home initiatives “over the last week and a half”…

Let’s start with testing. As I announced previously, we are working to test all residents and all staff for free at facilities without known COVID-19 outbreaks, allowing us to identify early the presence of COVID-19 in a facility and to isolate those cases before widespread transmission. And at facilities with known cases, we are ensuring that all employees can be tested for free, allowing us to determine who is coming in and out of an infected home possibly asymptomatic and should instead be at home in isolation. Since we started this expanded testing policy on April 19, we’ve distributed over 18,000 swabs to 68 facilities for testing with more to come.

And to expand this effort, IDPH has secured a special contract with Quest Diagnostics to run 3000 tests per day for Illinois long term care facilities at no cost to the facilities. And Quest has promised to provide results in a 48 hour window, ensuring that IDPH local health departments and long term care facilities have the answers that they need to act quickly and decisively to protect other staff and residents.

Let’s also talk about developments in staffing and IDPH’s ability to deploy teams to facilities to assist long term care staff and local health departments. In responding to an outbreak, local health departments are the first line of communication and support for more than 1000 private long term care facilities in all elements of our COVID-19 response. That said, the Illinois Department of Public Health has prioritized protecting the health care workers and the residents at these facilities. These are some of our most vulnerable Illinoisans, and the state will do everything in its power to protect them.

For many weeks now, we’ve deployed Infectious Disease Control experts, advisors and Project HOPE volunteers to these facilities, and they will continue to operate as a part of our response. But beginning today, we’re adding a new clinical support program to our ongoing protective efforts. Initially, we’re deploying 10 teams of 50 nurses to homes across the state. Over the coming days an additional team of 200 IDPH nurses will be joining their ranks to deploy to facilities across the state, every day.

Though their assistance will be tailored to meet each facility’s needs. They’ll be focused on three tasks, conducting swab testing training existing staff to take samples themselves and reviewing and improving the facilities’ hygiene practices and PPE use with some homes low on staff due to sickness. IDPH, and our Illinois Department of Financial and Professional Regulation have simplified the hiring process for long term care facilities at this time, so that they can bring on temporary nursing assistants to ensure that they have the healthy staff they need to care for all of their residents. That includes allowing our long term care facilities to tap into our Illinois Helps network where thousands of medical professionals in Illinois have indicated their willingness to volunteer their skills in the fight against COVID-19 and to support the care of facility residents covering recovering from COVID-19.

We have worked with the Federal Department of Veterans Affairs to open up existing bed capacity at VA hospitals so that our seniors can isolate and receive medical treatment there if needed. As always I want to offer my gratitude and the thanks of a grateful state to the frontline staff who dedicate their days and their nights to this work and who are stepping up in incredible ways to protect those most vulnerable to this virus. Know that your work makes a world of difference to the people that you care for to their families and to all of Illinois. So thank you.

…Adding… From the nursing home industry…

Nursing home provider associations have been meeting with the Illinois Department of Public Health and representatives from Gov. Pritzker’s administration twice a week for more than a month. Last week we submitted a comprehensive plan, and we are pleased to see the Governor has implemented some of our recommendations, including staffing reinforcements, expanding testing to all residents and staff, and ongoing PPE support.

* Dr. Ezike…

In total, we have run 256,667 tests with 14,478 being run in the last 24 hours. As far as hospitalizations, as of midnight 5,036 people were in hospitals in Illinois for COVID-19 of those 5,036, 1,290 were in the ICU and 777 patients were on ventilators.

* On to questions for the governor and Dr. Ezike. So all staff and residents at homes without cases are being tested?…

We’re in the process of that. Yeah, we don’t have enough to do it all at once so we’re getting to all of them. But I think I said 68 and i think that that’s the number.

* Lots of questions about the second lawsuit that’s been filed. Rep. Cabello, rather than the first and kind of giving you an opportunity, maybe to revise the extended stay at home order before a hearing on Monday. Your thoughts to that? Are you considering it? What do you think?…

No, I think it’s a similarly irresponsible lawsuit. You know we’re in the business here of keeping people safe and healthy. That’s what the stay at home order has been about. And I just think that lawsuit is just another attempt at grandstanding.

* Does the litigation have a point? It argues that many mom and pop retailers should be allowed to open. Big box stores are operating, similar shops can observe similar social distancing protocols. Why not allow those small business owners to do more than just drive up and delivery?…

One of the challenges that’s come up during this crisis has been that again the list of essential services and businesses that are open focuses in part on grocery stores. But as you know many big box stores have a grocery store inside them, which allows them under this order to stay open. They also have other aisles and other products that they sell.

So that’s one of the unfortunate challenges of this small mom and pop, as Eric is calling them, stores, the small business people. What we’ve tried to do for them as this pickup and delivery for any kind of retail establishment, to give them an opportunity to reopen. I am most concerned about those small businesses. It’s one of the reasons we created, even in addition to the PPP program at the federal level which I don’t think has been great for those small businesses, we created a grant program at the state level to just provide $25,000 grants to local small businesses.

There is no doubt about it that the first thing that I want to be able to do across the state is to open up those smallest businesses. Those folks have risked their lives, you know risked their livelihoods, rather, all of their savings to open up a business and along comes this terrible pandemic that no one expected. And it’s devastating, specifically those tiny those small businesses, so we’re working hard to figure out how to make that happen. And of course we will give some guidance and guidelines for stores about social distancing. How many people can be in a space, certain number of people per square feet just like you hear from a fire marshal for example, but it is a top concern of mine to open small businesses as soon as possible.

* So, in regards to the second lawsuit. They’re also hoping, you know, the legislator can get back, they want to have a conversation about all this. Is that a possibility, why not work with the entire legislature to pass a law clarifying such powers in order to be able to go back during a situation like a pandemic?…

Everybody should understand that I do the executive order, the legislature has the ability to meet. There’s nothing barring the legislature meeting. Obviously they have to follow social distancing guidelines and other things but they are considered essential as our governments around the state. And so that’s something that’ll get decided by the leaders and the members themselves about whether and how to meet.

I have suggested to the legislature that if they want guidance, and I think they will want guidance about how to do it safely, because that’s the most important thing we just don’t want anybody getting sick as to whether they meet today, a week from now or a month from now, whenever that may be. It needs we need to make sure that all the people who work in the capital for those legislators, as well as all the legislators are safe. And so I have suggested to them they may want to get guidance from our IDPH or from epidemiologists, you know, well regarded epidemiologists in the state, who would know how to design a plan for them to to meet.

Has anyone asked for that guidance?…

Several of the leaders asked to know what would that look like. And so there was an outline provided to them of what it could look like, but not knowing the details of how the legislature wants to do this. You know, it’s hard for guidelines really to be written for what they want to do, for example, are they, hoping to have committee meetings? If they are hoping to have committee meetings How do people participate in that. How is there an audience in a small committee room when we can’t have gatherings of 10 or more in a closed space? So those are complicated and I just don’t know what the legislature will want to do in that regard.

What about a virtual meeting?…

It’s not allowed by law today, but absolutely they could I know that the city council in Chicago has met by zoom. I know that some of the aldermen don’t feel like it’s a very effective way to meet but they are at least meeting.

And so yeah, that is something that the legislature could do. But in order to do that they would need to meet in person and to pass a law to allow distance meetings. So how would that happen, how does that, how do we get that ball rolling. But yeah, I would say it’s back to the legislators themselves. I mean honestly this is not my, it’s not you know for forcing people somehow. I’m not going to push legislators and they are as many have pointed out a co-equal branch, they do have the ability to make their own rules and make their own decisions. And that’s something that’s completely, you know on them with any advice, we’ll be able to provide to them.

Bill Brady suggesting today maybe wearing masks, putting up plastic shields or maybe even meeting in a place like the United Center. Why if the Department of Public Health can set regulations for how grocery stores can safely operate as a department, set guidelines for how the legislator can convene to do its work well?…

It’s kind of the same answer, and I don’t know whether they would recommend wearing face shields, or surgical masks or N95 masks. Again that’s, I’m not an expert and honestly I think that if you think about it, there are 177 members of the General Assembly. And then when you add just even one staff member per legislator, you’re at 354 people. And then, of course, there are security people at the Capitol and others. So you know when you add all that up, it’s a quite a lot of people. Yeah, you in theory you could meet anywhere, but, of course, you know that too would be an expense that would have to be borne by the state but it’s it’s doable.

If they can’t meet, what damage is being done to the legislators and ability to function during the COVID-19 pandemic?…

Well this COVID-19 has just been horrible, I mean it’s been the effect on people’s lives, the effect on the state, the ability of the state to move forward. Think of all the things that we knew that we wanted to accomplish and I’ve talked about accomplishing this year that I believe and not to mention, people who may disagree with me and the things they want to accomplish for the year. The idea that the session has been so delayed. Now remember, it is possible to meet at any time. It doesn’t have to be today or next week or even next month, it really could be at any time and again that’s up to the legislature. If I started dictating a date for them to meet, I’m sure that there would be blowback from legislators and so I have left it to them to make decisions.

* Is there any legal advantage to bypassing the Fifth State Appellate District and taking the appeal of Representative Bailey’s court case directly to the State Supreme Court, considering that appears, many more lawsuits are coming?…

That has been done, that filing, or at least the filing with the fifth district, as I understand it, the Attorney General is filing an appeal with the fifth district and simultaneously or sure moments after filing for leave to take it to the Supreme Court.

* It’s a class four felony in Illinois to carry a concealed weapon while wearing a mask. Technically prosecutors could charge a legal gun owner for obeying your executive order. The order doesn’t take effect until Friday, why not use your executive order to temporarily suspend that portion of the law?…

So actually we’ve allowed the state police to set some guidelines here and it doesn’t prohibit people from concealed carry. The rule that we put in place would not.

* Some frontline health care workers are using shower caps and rain ponchos for PPE. Is that appropriate?…

No, they should be provided PPE by their hospital, by their healthcare facility that they work for. We, as I have said we have provided to every county health department, and to hospitals and others across the state, the PPE that they’ve asked for indeed, and we are trying to keep some sense of the inventory that exists, and the inventories exists so if there are healthcare workers that are not being given PPE. First they should tell their supervisor, knowing that there are stores of PPE at the facility. Second, if that is not effective they should call their county public health department which has received deliveries from our IDPH of PPE. And we have PPe in the state, you know we’re constantly ordering more, we have you know as I mentioned there’s sort of a shortage of gowns. But as to all of the PPE that should be available to those folks when they go to their health care facility.

* Do you have data on what populations are making up the newly infected cases? We’ve been staying at home for several weeks. Are the new cases primarily essential workers, or people who are staying at home still getting sick anyway? [Really good question.]…

Dr. Ezike: Just to review how this virus is transmitted. If you have been home for, I don’t know how many days now. If you have been home. You can’t, the virus cannot come up de novo. Of course we know that there are many people in our state that do have to leave the home, whether they’re essential workers and there are many from from the healthcare workers to the first responders to government officials to people working in the grocery stores delivers people who are providing food so there are, you know, many, many people that do go out. There are people who are under the stay at home, but go you know venture out so there are still many opportunities for the virus to be transmitted. The good news is that we know just even from the are naught value from the doubling time from the way that the number of cases and the number of fatalities have have flattened that we have curve, that number significantly significantly, so I want to applaud the people of Illinois they have done the right thing, and we have gotten the desired effect. Have we gotten to the point where there’s no transmission of the virus? No, but we have done a fantastic job and that’s why we need to stay the course.

* There are a handful of counties without a single confirmed case of COVID-19. I know my home county of Schuyler County only has one case. Any more thought to lifting or easing restrictions in those specific areas?…

Actually we did, in many ways, in this new stay at home order that begins May 1. That is to say we identified state parks, many of them are in those areas of the state. And we’ve opened those, we are opening those state parks, which had been closed in part to keep the residents or other visitors safe but also to keep the state workers safe, who have to congregate in small facilities there sometimes, several of them in a, in a truck, all at once so we wanted to keep them safe.

So that’s one way or another, other ways. For example, when we allowed elective surgeries, we made sure that the areas of the state that have the most availability of hospital beds and ICU beds, had the most availability of elective surgeries. And so those are examples of the ways in which we’ve kind of, you know, gradually allowed certain areas to do more than other areas.

But I would also point out that yes it’s true. There are six counties in the state that don’t have any cases, several counties that have one case. But as you move up that list and there are 102 counties, what you find even in that bottom portion of, you know, fewer cases is that, by virtue of the population in the county that actually their infection rate is higher than in Cook County or than in other areas that seem to have many more cases, but by population, you might have a hotspot in a small less populated county so we’re keeping an eye on those areas but I 100% agree with the idea that, where it is safe and where there’s more distance for people and you know where we can open businesses that don’t force people to congregate together in larger groups than 10 at a time and so on then we want to do that as soon that’s kind of part of the thinking of the phases that you’ve been talking about and the regions that’s still on the table. That’s correct. The way we think about regions is really in health care zones, where are the hospitals, how many beds are available at the hospitals that would serve a certain area of the state, rather than the way sometimes people talk about regions of the state as well. I live in Southern Illinois or I live in little Egypt or you know whatever. These are all great ways to identify areas of the state, but the way we look at it is about health care and keeping people healthy. And so that’s how you know when you talk about regions that’s how we’re thinking about.

* Update on McCormick Place? What’s the latest on what other staffers are doing who were hired and now not needed?…

Right, so the healthcare workers that are at the current place that may not be needed are actually going to be used in other areas for example with nursing homes, other facilities we still have remember staff people everywhere healthcare workers everywhere are getting ill they’re putting themselves out there, risking themselves and some of them are getting sick and need to be home isolated or some of them even have ended up in the hospital. And of course, some have died. And so we have a shortage of healthcare workers across the state. So, those that aren’t working at McCormick, that we can redeploy we are redeploying as to the future of McCormick Place. We’ve talked a lot about standing down. Many of the beds that for the time being, you know that the facility is there to be used. But the idea of staffing all of the 3000 beds that we were going to staff because we didn’t know how high the peak was going frankly we still don’t really know, but we do see like I’ve said flattening. So, we’ve stood down 1000 of those beds and it looks like we’re going to have the ability to stand down much more of that facility. So, but again I don’t want to speak too soon because all of these identified alternate care facilities, need to be in a state of some kind of readiness. In the event that there’s a surge, either because we reopen, and God forbid we open reopen too fast or because there’s a surge that people expect in the fall, because there’s a potential for that surge.

* Do you continue to have McCormick Place up and running as an alternate care facility through the fall?…

I can’t project that far in advance, honestly. At the moment, again, everything that we prepared for what we thought would be a higher peak. And again, the reason we didn’t hit a higher peak is because of all of you at home, who are staying home and following the rules. But, you know, we need to be ready, we just don’t don’t know.

And so I think we have to watch and see what the infection rates are what you know we’ve talked about the or not. How many people does a single infected person infect. So if it’s, you know, 1.2, 1.1 [garbled] and so on. And now we believe that infection rate or the R naught as they say, the number of people get infected by one infected person is less than two and D less than one and a half, at this point, it had been up to three and a half. So all of those things factor into the way we think and we try not to project too far in the future because gosh, at this point it would be hard for anybody who’s not an epidemiologist to say, why would there be a surge in the fall, what is the fall have to do with anything and yet the experts say that is precisely the concern that we’ll be focused on.

* Michigan’s offering a GI bill for pandemic frontline workers, tuition free path for college degree, thoughts, something you would consider?…

Absolutely. I think that that you know the idea of providing, what I’ll describe as combat pay you know for people around the frontlines that’s something that we ought to be considering. As you know, we don’t have any surpluses laying around in Illinois, that would allow us to just pull that out of an old rainy day fund. There just isn’t any in Illinois, there wasn’t any when I showed up in office. So we are looking to the federal government to help us fund the loss of revenues in the state that’s come from coronavirus. And I do believe that we should be looking at how to support the people who have been truly amazing. They’re heroes to all of us and I think they deserve to be recognized as such.

* A standalone firearm range that doesn’t have a retail component says they were told they can’t operate under the order. If they aren’t allowed to operate they say they’ll look into illegal actions against the order, how do you plan to address non retail firearm training and practice rages?…

It’s not something I’ve honestly paid close attention to. Now that you’ve raised it I’ll certainly look into it, but at the moment remember we’re trying to focus on essential businesses and we followed we’ve tried to follow the guidelines of the Federal Homeland Security list of essential businesses.

* Fox 32 uncovered a nail salon operating on the north side ignoring your stay at home order. What can the state do to go after non essential businesses? How many complaints has the state received for non essential businesses operating during this temporary closure?…

Well, again, we’ve asked people to follow the rules. We also local law enforcement has the ability to go to engage with those business owners that are opening against the rule. You know we have enforcement mechanisms their permits can be taken away the state can take action local governments can take action. So lots of ways in which those businesses can suffer some penalty as a result of not obeying these executive orders.

* How does that feel when you see these businesses opened and not abiding in parties?…

I think I want to talk about the businesses, kind of separate from parties, because look you know I know that it’s very very difficult for these small businesses in this time. And so I know there is an urge to want to just open the doors because of the devastation that this coronavirus has caused.

But we have to be responsible because it’s not just you the business owner, that you know you’re keeping safe by staying closed. You’re also keeping the populace safe by keeping closed. And so it’s, we just need a little while longer here while we move past this peek.

And for those who think that the President of the United States is the person that they want to follow on this, all I can say is, they put out a federal plan, some of which I think is is right. And so, past peak, we want to make sure that we’re moving down the other side of that peak, and then we can start to open.

To people who are partying together. And I saw some comments by somebody who was at one of those parties. All I can say is that everybody at that party put themselves and everybody else they’re at risk and they put their families at risk their friends at risk their communities at risk, because when they left there remember you can have COVID-19 and be asymptomatic we’re having no symptoms. Right. So, this woman who spoke about it said well I’m not feeling anything it’s been a day I’m fine, you know. Well guess what, you can have it, and you may be asymptomatic and you may be giving it to other people.

* Woodford County has a population of 38,265 have been tested 12 positive one has died. Why do you think they should be treated just like Chicago? Density doesn’t matter data doesn’t matter explain the science behind that position?…

Well, like I said earlier, we in fact aren’t treating every part of the state the same.

And more importantly, as we began this we didn’t really know how this virus was spread, we didn’t really know that there was even asymptomatic situations where someone could have coronavirus and not know. And so, certainly we’ve learned a lot all of us from the epidemiologists have learned a lot over the course of this. You know this novel coronavirus. And so we are in fact making changes and you’ve seen some of those in the executive order that I put forward more will come. But again, I would point everybody to the president said. Indeed, I think, Amy Jacobson mentioned the plan that the President put forward, and what it takes to get to what he calls Phase One is, indeed, much of what we’re following here.

* New data from the CDC suggests there were an additional 700 deaths between March, 8 and April 11 that were not directly attributed to COVID-19. Are you aware of the spike in deaths above the average for previous years, and if so, is it possible these could be previously unidentified COVID-19 fatalities?…

Yeah it is. I mean I think everybody’s realizing, indeed, there’s been a recent report out of California I think that shows that people had COVID-19 long before anybody thought, here in the United States. And so, it’s probably true here in Illinois that people had caught a virus long before. And so some of the deaths that nobody was even talking about, they didn’t have a name for this thing, people were dying and they may have been put on their [garbled] because they died of pneumonia or some other respiratory illness. And so there’s no doubt that we’re going to need to go back through the records. That’s going to probably happen in months hence, because we have so much to do now to focus on keeping people safe and alive now. But we’re probably going to have to go back and see how many of these probably based upon all the symptoms were COVID-19.

* One feeling behind this week’s lawsuits is you haven’t listened to the needs of people Downstate. Could you do better? Some examples of where you’ve done well downstate, can you envision any scenario where you would negotiate with outsiders on less restrictive stay at home order?…

It’s being suggested by the question is that, I’ve had many, many direct conversations with legislators, Democrats and Republicans downstate, and I’ve listened to them and I think some of them would tell you that they were the ones who suggested some of the changes that we put into the May 1 executive order. And certainly the leaders of the, the Republican leaders of the House and Senate also made suggestions that were incorporated into the stay at home order for May 1.

So, I mean, is there more to do of course, I mean I know it’s hard to look back and say that I did everything exactly right, but I will say that I listened, I have listened and I continue to listen to people on both sides of the aisle.

I need best ideas, you know you heard me talk about representative Mark batt Nick at one point, who suggested that people in grocery stores and in essential businesses needed to wear face coverings. And he himself went out and promoted that in his district and has developed a terrific poster that I think should be more widely used and downloaded from his website about that, and I listened to him and indeed, obviously a portion of what we put in place in order to lower the infection rates across the state was because of the suggestion of people in those essential businesses need to wear face coverings and I thank you representative for raising that subject.

* Are there any plans to defer property taxes for small businesses, some have reached out to say their bill is due in a few months and they won’t be able to pay it since they produce no income during the stay at home order?…

As you know, property taxes are managed by local governments, county governments, municipal governments and I certainly encourage folks to think about what they can do to lower the or to extend the due dates or to change how it is they’re charging people for their property taxes. But that is something that’s being decided at the local level, it’s not a state issue

* IDPH data appears to show non COVID patients and ICU beds spiked from 991 on April 23 to 1265 the next day to 1448 on April 27. Is there an explanation for a spike in non COVID ICU patients in such a short amount of time?…

Dr. Ezike: I can only offer speculations as I don’t have the diagnosis of all the people who are non COVID, I know as I follow the literature and actually from hearing anecdotal information, we are seeing people with acute heart attacks and strokes and as I’m going through the literature I’m seeing how this virus actually affects the blood vessels and how it’s promoting clots. And so there may be additional heart attacks and strokes and other clotting events that may or may in fact be related to COVID so again without being able to study the you know the the medical records of each of those additional cases, We can speculate. But I think maybe the people in the hospitals could maybe, maybe round out the information and give us more granular details as we go forward.

* Can you offer an update on the Midwest coalition of states and whether anything has really happened with how you all are dealing with Missouri and Iowa or cross border travel? [He’s said multiple times that he’s not sealing state borders.]…

We are in consistent communication. I in fact was in contact with three other governors that are part of our coalition just this morning.

And in terms of cross border traffic I mean we’re not stopping people from traveling. So, that’s not something that we’re looking to do we are you know the county health departments across borders, do talk to one another about how to make sure that you know we’re keeping people safe and healthy.

And so you know those are obviously as indicated by the question peculiar to those areas of the state. We’re very concerned for example about areas like East St Louis and Belleville and all of St. Clair and Madison counties, because there has been an outbreak, obviously a hotspot in St. Louis, and that has an effect on people who are just across the river. So we’re keeping a very close eye on it. And of course we’re doing a lot of testing in that area and focusing on health and safety and keeping people at home.

* When the mask requirement takes effect would you advise businesses to refuse service to anyone not wearing one?…

I would, and in part because that is the intent of the executive order. And in part because I think that people don’t want to go into your establishment if you have people in there, who are have the potential to infect each other by virtue of not wearing a mask.

* Can you provide an update on your tracing efforts how many workers what technology will there be phone banks how much funding is being allocated?…

I think I answered this yesterday, but we absolutely are in process of building this thing it’s not something that will happen overnight. But there’s no doubt that we are hiring. A number of people are in process of putting the infrastructure together to hire people. And there are a number of different technologies that are available. As you know I came out of the technology industry before I became governor. And so I have some opinions about that but most importantly we just want the technology that will work best and there are examples of it working in Massachusetts in particular, but I’m going to take a look at all of it and you know we’ll make a decision. I will not be the final arbiter of which technology gets chosen but I have some opinions to offer and certainly salient questions.

* Are you considering to any plans to possibly allow hairdressers and barbers to reopen before June one for example if everyone wears a mask and salons are sanitized regularly?…

Look, we’re considering how to open all kinds of different businesses. It is hard, I mean I’ve listened to epidemiologists about this and Dr. Ezike and others. It is hard to, you know, in businesses where people are going to be face to face or, very close to one another in providing a certain service. You know, there’s no social distancing that could be done in that circumstance.

Having said that, we’re looking at, we’ve seen other states doing, thinking about this and where they put it in their phases of reopening. And that’s one that we’re certainly considering. Haven’t figured out exactly which phase to put that in.

I would like that to happen sooner rather than later.

* What guidance is IDPH giving to food manufacturers when they have identified an outbreak among workers? Should they shut down? How should companies and health departments make this call? Companies say there is a lack of clear guidance…

The federal government regulates those facilities and we were just informed today by the White House that the President has invoked the defense production act to protect those facilities from being closed. But the guidelines for how to keep the workers safe, in my opinion, needs work. And so we here in Illinois are most concerned about the people who work in those facilities. We want to keep the supply chain going. That’s very important you know meat processing and proteins, very important in the supply chain for food.

So we want to make sure that they’re open, but we also want to make sure that they’re safe and so we’re trying to augment the efforts of the federal government, and also examine what they put out today which involves some guidelines from their department of agriculture, OSHA, the Department of Labor, these are all US departments, as well as the CDC. But in my opinion that you know everybody should be wearing a mask in these facilities, everybody should have PPE available to them, they should be cleaned if there is a an outbreak. And of course the workers there who are either COVID positive or exposed to COVID positive workers should be allowed to stay home and recover or isolate until they’re considered free of COVID.

* SEIU has said workers of more than 40 nursing homes will strike May 8. Have you gotten involved in the negotiations, or will you get involved to keep workers on the job will the state step in if facilities strike?…

I have not been involved in that I have, you know I am encouraging and would encourage both sides to come to the bargaining table and get this done, get a deal done get a contract done. We cannot let our seniors down We can’t let people who are in long term care facilities down. It’s too important.

* Downstate TV stations have both asked IDOC to release a list of 4000 inmates released since March 1. Were these released due to COVID? Winnebago county state’s attorney says you cannot notify victims families quick enough. What do you say to those families?…

No, it’s my understanding that a majority - I haven’t heard that 4000 number until I read it recently - majority of those releases are people who simply their sentences came to an end and they were released as they normally would be.

* On March 20 you said all non essential businesses must halt operations. What law gives the executive branch power to indefinitely shutter private businesses?…

Well there’s nothing indefinite about it, it’s in response to an emergency. So when there’s an emergency the Emergency Management Act gives authority. And then, of course there are authorities given to the Emergency Management Director as well as the Director of the Department of Public Health under different a different law to effectuate these things. But there’s nothing indefinite about it, there’s what it’s intended to do is while an emergency is ongoing and there clearly is an emergency folks. I mean let’s pay attention to the fact that people are dying every single day. What was predicted by some a couple you know a month ago to be will only have 10,000 deaths only 10,000 deaths in the United States we’ve now I think surpassed 60,000. And, in Illinois we continue to have people die every day and, so, look, I know the intent of the question is to ask about the indefinite nature of there’s nothing indefinite about this.

* Since the governor keeps saying the hospitalization number is the most important. Can you explain what those numbers need to look like in order for the layperson to know how the state is doing? Is a percentage of all beds just ICU beds, etc.?…

I think the basis of the question, if I understand is, when are we going to be able to move into the different phases of opening, is that the intention of the question about hospitalizations? We watch hospitalizations, but they can’t keep going up, they’re going up, ICU bed beds are still filling. And so, we need to, again I would look at the President’s guidelines as one measure here which is you have to peak and then move down the other side for 14 consistent days. And I think that’s a good way to think about what the timing might be. But again hospitalizations are a very important maybe the most important measure here because you don’t want to have your hospitals overrun with cases.

* Has the governor received a letter from Central Illinois mayors, including those from East Peoria and Pekin, proposing reopening their economies in phases, if so does the governor have a response to their proposal?…

Yes, I very much appreciate different groups of mayors or areas have offered their plans for reopening. Those are extremely instructive. And I appreciate that very much. We also got one from Quincy, and from mayor’s around the Chicago area, and so on. These are very helpful. And so as we look at the phasing back of the economy, we’ll be taking all of those letters into consideration and I want to thank the local officials, many of whom I’ve spoken with directly on the phone, including the mayor of East Peoria, and so I look forward to the reopening, and to listening as I have, along the way here to listening to their ideas and incorporating them in the phased-in plan so we can get everybody back to work, back to school.

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posted by Rich Miller
Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 2:44 pm

Comments

  1. governments should check out this product that was shown on NBCToday in the last few days. Dallas is using it on transit, a fire department in Md is using it in ambulances. $10k and they aren’t raising the price. I have to hope that governments will buy because I checked and private purchases cannot happen. https://halosil.com

    Comment by Amalia Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 3:12 pm

  2. I imagine that if the Governor had called the GA into a special session, Reps. Bailey and Cabello would have been among the first to complain that he was putting them and their families at risk…

    Comment by Pot calling kettle Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 3:12 pm

  3. sorry not to be clear, posting the halosil link because it is like a small version of the effort now in Waukegan….aersolized hydrogen peroxide. I was so hoping I could buy one myself….

    Comment by Amalia Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 3:13 pm

  4. I don’t know why JB just doesn’t deflect all these questions about the legislature to its leaders. Plus he needs to start answering some of these repetitive and nontopical (I’m apparently making up a word there) with a simple yes or no whenever he can.

    Comment by Original Rambler Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 3:14 pm

  5. I applaud the Governor’s patience with the daily deluge of ‘why can’t downstate open up NOW’ questions

    Comment by Nick Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 3:17 pm

  6. Governor Pritzker - my suggestion is let all small, medium, and large businesses reopen. Simply suggest that each business post at their entrances their internal PPE policy for their employees, and the PPE expectation for customers. Let the each customer decide if this is adequate. If not adequate, customers can find another business that meets their requirements. Micromanaging this is not necessary.

    Comment by Unstable Genius Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 3:24 pm

  7. –Let the each customer decide if this is adequate.–

    And if it’s not adequate, but the only pharmacy or grocery in town, what’s the alternative for the customer?

    Comment by Former Downstater Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 3:27 pm

  8. - Unstable Genius -

    The White House guidelines are better than your thoughts.

    Thanks.

    Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 3:28 pm

  9. Former Downstater, I believe that may depend on if the customer has anyone willing to help them. If so, an arrangement could be made so the customer who feels Unstable Genius’s idea is inadequate, can have the other person get groceries or prescriptions for them.
    If not, the customer would have to look into online ordering.

    Comment by Tynie Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 3:31 pm

  10. I’m aware my perspective may not be a popular one. Here’s the thing, I’ve actually internet researched the ideas I just gave, and the first one is happening in other places. Online ordering has boomed since the lockdowns started, so I don’t think it’s a stretch to believe my ideas are plausible.

    Comment by Tynie Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 3:34 pm

  11. I’ve read the section Rich noted regarding who makes up the new cases of COVID multiple times, but I didn’t see an answer as to whether the new cases are primarily essential workers or everybody in general. Am I missing something? Like Rich noted, this is a good question worth answering.

    Comment by Former ILSIP Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 3:37 pm

  12. == I don’t know why JB just doesn’t deflect all these questions ==

    I’ve never understood why JB doesn’t deflect the business opening questions to the White House. This is trumps plan, the plan that the trump White House provided to the states. These protesters are all trump supporters (at least judging from their signs), why are they protesting governors? Why aren’t they going to DC and protesting outside the White House? I mean, besides rank hypocrisy?

    Comment by Lester Holt’s Mustache Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 3:44 pm

  13. “Let the each customer decide if this is adequate.”

    You forgot to finish your suggestion:

    Let the each customer decide if precautions are adequate on behalf of every person with whom they may subsequently come in contact and to whom they may transmit this highly contagious and deadly virus — and all of the people with whom those subsequent persons may come in contact.

    – MrJM

    Comment by @misterjayem Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 3:46 pm

  14. 2253 new positive cases, out of 14,478 tested in the last 24 hrs.
    15.56% positive.
    7 day moving avg, 16.73%, down from a high of 22.85% on 4/17.
    energetically downward trend.

    2215 total deaths, out of 50,355 total cases
    4.4% rate.*
    7 day moving avg, 4.45%, down from a high of 4.46% on 4/26.
    plateu.

    50,355 total cases, out of 256,667 total tested.
    19.62% positive.
    7 day moving avg, 20.43%, down from a high of 21.26% on 4/23.
    slowly declining.

    *when antibody testing/serum testing is more prevalent, this rate will drop significantly if worldwide numbers hold true in Illinois.

    (My county numbers just got blown up with a 30% increase in cases due to a nursing home.)

    Comment by just the numbers Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 3:47 pm

  15. Unstable Genius

    And the workers? If they believe the PPE offered by their employer is inadequate can they still stay home and collect unemployment? It would only be fair that way both worker and customer have a choice.

    In addtion, others have raised the point of passing it along to others. Does the customer or employee have the right to pick up the virus at Stable Genius’s Phyne Establishment and then pass it along?

    I’m dubious.

    Comment by cermak_rd Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 4:00 pm

  16. Small and large businesses should print up signs to place at the entrance:

    No shoes
    No shirt
    No mask
    No service

    Comment by Wensicia Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 4:06 pm

  17. ==the legislature has the ability to meet. There’s nothing barring the legislature meeting.==

    How many times to members of the fourth estate need to be reminded of this?

    Comment by Token Conservative Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 4:09 pm

  18. Wensicia, my area public transit has signs similar to that. The main difference is, they include warnings that the passenger number can be limited, and all trips must involve essential shopping. I know, because I’ve seen them during my trips for essentials.
    Businesses wouldn’t need the passenger limit warning, but if the rest is good enough for public transit.. Why not them?

    Comment by Tynie Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 4:12 pm

  19. == Simply suggest that each business post at their entrances their internal PPE policy for their employees, and the PPE expectation for customers. Let the each customer decide if this is adequate. ==

    I dunno about you, but when I go into a store I don’t know if each customer is a board-certified epidemiologist who is qualified to make that decision for themselves. That’s why we have public health departments.

    Comment by olddog Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 4:12 pm

  20. === ==the legislature has the ability to meet. There’s nothing barring the legislature meeting.==

    How many times to members of the fourth estate need to be reminded of this?===

    100%

    If you are a reporter, and you are so clueless that you don’t know the legislature sets their own schedules, maybe go cover things where deciding to know what you’re covering is optional.

    “Asked has answered”

    Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 4:13 pm

  21. Edit to last comment: Businesses also wouldn’t need the essential trip warning, if they were allowed to reopen.

    Comment by Tynie Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 4:14 pm

  22. ==Businesses wouldn’t need the passenger limit warning==

    Actually, the grocery stores I visit do limit the number of customers, with staff outside to regulate numbers and distancing. I expect this to be the rule as more small businesses reopen.

    Comment by Wensicia Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 4:22 pm

  23. As do I, and I’m fine with it. I was just trying to be clear about the differences between your sign idea and some of the ones I’ve seen.

    Comment by Tynie Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 4:25 pm

  24. == The White House guidelines are better than your thoughts. ==

    OW, you are absolutely right. That is where Pritzker has fallen short (generally think he has done well). He needs to take the White House guidelines and put them in a matrix, and say when we have 14 days of decline, this is what will happen. That hasn’t happened yet.

    Comment by Smalls Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 4:29 pm

  25. Re: Lester Holt’s Mustache

    “I’ve never understood why JB doesn’t deflect the business opening questions to the White House. This is trumps plan, the plan that the trump White House provided to the states. These protesters are all trump supporters (at least judging from their signs), why are they protesting governors?”

    By now you’ve probably noticed that the President is not really scrupulous about adherence to the fine details of plans — including his own. His supporters have taken their cue from him.

    Basically Trump’s supporters fall into two camps. The larger camp’s attitude can be summed up as “Trump issued a plan to reopen. I don’t care about the details. Why aren’t we reopening?” They love their guy and aren’t worried about what they consider boilerplate.

    There is a smaller camp that is distancing itself from Trump psychologically. In other words, they think Trump is being timid and may have been hornswoggelled by Fauci, Birx, et al. If Trump himself doesn’t jump on board, they’ll go on without him.

    Bottom line is the details of the Trump plan are not something you can cite to Trump supporters to get them to reconsider.

    Comment by Saul Goodman Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 4:30 pm

  26. Agreed that it is a bit absurd to expect the governor to speak for a co-equal branch of government.

    So, when will the co-equals step forward to do their jobs?

    Comment by JB13 Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 4:37 pm

  27. Leader Durkin has been on the Zoom… maybe he can respond.

    “Why aren’t you at work, Leader Durkin?”

    Then they can vote on a resolution on the stay at home order.

    That’ll be tasty.

    Why aren’t the Raunerites clamoring the Four Tops?

    Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 4:42 pm

  28. =He needs to take the White House guidelines and put them in a matrix, and say when we have 14 days of decline, this is what will happen. That hasn’t happened yet.=

    I think there is some merit to this. We seem to keep ignoring these guidelines and hearing, “when will things open up?” The White House has issued guidelines, reasonable and prudent ones. Perhaps the best thing that we could do for Bailey, Cabello, and their ilk is to continually remind them of that fact and show them exactly where we’re at in regards to those guidelines. If they want to take it up with the President they’re free to do so.

    Comment by Pundent Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 4:44 pm

  29. “He needs to take the White House guidelines and put them in a matrix, and say when we have 14 days of decline, this is what will happen. That hasn’t happened yet.”

    I suspect that the Pritzker administration is hesitant to refer anyone to guidelines issued by an entity as fickle and erratic as the Trump White House.

    Although the current guidelines may be sound, they could be changed, reversed or eliminated on a whim.

    – MrJM

    Comment by @misterjayem Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 4:55 pm

  30. ==Perhaps the best thing that we could do for Bailey, Cabello, and their ilk is to continually remind them of that fact ==

    I have tried that approach, and the response is consistently “Trump also said this is up to the governors.” and we are right back to square one in the conversation.

    Comment by DownSouth Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 5:01 pm

  31. You could hold the legislative session in the BOS Center in Springfield: it has enough main floor space with room for 6-foot distancing to make a House chamber and a Senate chamber, with a divider curtain in between. It has the video scoreboard thing for showing vote tallies and bill numbers. The legislators would have to make do with folding chairs and tables. Voting could be done over webex. The lower level has exhibition spaces big enough to use for committee rooms/caucus rooms with six foot separation. The Hoogland Center down the street could also be used, if you needed even more spaces. This is easier than back when the Old Capitol was used during New capitol building renovations, back in the 90’s.

    Comment by Give Us Barabbas Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 5:06 pm

  32. I cannot understand why so many folks want to open their areas up to high rates of infection, overwhelmed hospitals, loved ones dying, etc.

    “Stay-at-home seems to be working in our area, and we don’t like it” seems to be the argument here.

    Note: I live downstate, and I am very, very happy with the health effects of stay-at-home. I am worried about my barber, my favorite restaurants, and my unemployed neighbors, but I also don’t want them to get sick and die.

    Comment by Pot calling kettle Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 5:11 pm

  33. This IS a really good question:

    Do you have data on what populations are making up the newly infected cases? We’ve been staying at home for several weeks. Are the new cases primarily essential workers, or people who are staying at home still getting sick anyway? [Really good question.]…

    And I didn’t really see an answer. It would be extremely useful to know who is newly infected and to figure out where they got it. If they’re like me, and they’ve stayed home and ordered grocery delivery and they STILL got it, that’s scary. If they have been going to work every day, it would be useful to know where — or rather, what type of work.

    Comment by Soccermom Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 5:17 pm

  34. =I have tried that approach, and the response is consistently “Trump also said this is up to the governors.”=

    So Bailey and Cabello believe that the guidelines from the President, which are quite explicit, are meaningless and should be ignored? That’s fun.

    Comment by Pundent Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 5:32 pm

  35. More to a point, I think the Governor does need to put things into perspective.

    It was just in the last week we finally got past 10K tests, and many believe we need to go way beyond that to be able to get in front of the virus.

    We don’t even have a well-sized contact tracing program put in place yet.

    Lots of downstate probably can and even should open up before Chicago, sure. But we need the infrastructure in place to be able to do that, and it’s just not there yet.

    Comment by Nick Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 5:54 pm

  36. I am in Steamboat Springs, Colorado. For work of course. I needed some material from the ACE hardware store. They only allow so many people in the store at a time, you have to be masked and loitering is not tolerated. I haven’t visited anywhere else except the Safeway for groceries to eat in the hotel, but what I see is the same process as ACE everywhere. Even the new medical building that is not occupied yet requires masks, temperature checks and distancing.

    But as far as the business closures, it is the same as Illinois. The amount of reported cases are much lower than Illinois but the process to contain seems the same.

    Comment by FormerParatrooper Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 5:55 pm

  37. I consider those people who are dying to open up the economy against the Governor’s order to stay at home to be just like my two yowling cats. They are an irritant in my shelter at home life.

    There have been news reports that pets get the covid19 virus. So as best I can, I ignore the yowling cats and they are confined indoors.

    Until otherwise notified by the governor, I leave my house 1 or 2 days a week to go to the grocery store. Sheba will kill me if I or the cats get sick.

    Comment by Huh? Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 6:07 pm

  38. ==Woodford County has a population of 38,265 have been tested 12 positive one has died. Why do you think they should be treated just like Chicago? Density doesn’t matter data doesn’t matter explain the science behind that position?…==

    .0075% of Woodford’s population has been tested and someone thinks it’s a good idea to use it as an example of an area that should be reopened completely?

    Comment by Former Downstater Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 6:25 pm

  39. In all fairness to the reporters, the Gov refused to answer one question that wasn’t mentioned here. It was concerning why his family wasn’t abiding by the orders of unnecessary travel and sheltering in place.

    Comment by Ted Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 7:35 pm

  40. === he is limiting what media outlets can ask questions of him===

    Really? How so?

    Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 9:38 pm

  41. OW
    It was my understanding he wasn’t allowing all media into his pressers anymore. Has he opened it up to all media?

    Comment by Snakepliskin Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 9:44 pm

  42. If I remember correctly, his wife traveled to Florida several weeks ago and it was to care for a relative- which is allowed.

    As to limiting the media- a pool reporter is on site and asks questions referred to her/him by the other reporters. Jordan reads the questions submitted on line. It’s not limiting who can submit questions. It’s limiting the number of people in and outside of the room for social distancing. It was announced ahead of time.

    Comment by thoughts matter Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 9:49 pm

  43. ===understanding he wasn’t allowing all media into his pressers anymore. Has he opened it up to all media?===

    Yeah, here’s the sitch… keep up if you can.

    There are two people reading questions from the media. See, we’re in a pandemic, and having a dozen reports in a room so they can ask ONE question, that can be read by a single pool reporter safely allows more people to be socially distant.

    It’s called consideration.

    I’ve yet to hear of a single reporter being shut out of a question, and frankly if you have been paying attention there have been some truly bad questions along with good thoughtful ones, but, again, having 2 people reading all the questions is a safety thing.

    Your conspiracy is based on being thoughtful to Social distancing.

    Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 9:57 pm

  44. TM,
    Telling a reporter that they cannot be present and allowing a spokesperson to censor which questions are asked may not be limiting who and what questions can be submitted but it surely limits what and how questions are asked. Followup questions, intonation, interpretation are all essential ingredients to a free press. We may choose social distancing over allowing all reporters to participate freely, but it is a not the same.

    Comment by Snakepliskin Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 10:05 pm

  45. === censor===

    Not one reporter has said they’re being censored.

    If you have one, name them.

    Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 10:07 pm

  46. Seriously. You think a reporter would complain after these limitations have been put in place? Hee Hee.

    Comment by Snakepliskin Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 10:29 pm

  47. === Seriously. You think a reporter would complain after these limitations have been put in place?===

    Then how do you know any are being censored, mental telepathy?

    Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 10:31 pm

  48. OW. You are adorable with this schtick.

    Comment by Snakepliskin Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 10:39 pm

  49. - Snakepliskin -

    So you can’t name a reporter.

    Heck “media personality” Amy Jacobson is still asking questions.

    Next you’re gonna tell me we can’t trust the “Fake News” too.

    Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 10:42 pm

  50. So OW you’re telling me reporters are just lining up to talk to you about how great this situation is? How they support what is going on? Please expound in your journalistic experience and how many reporters are lined up to support this.

    Comment by Snakepliskin Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 10:46 pm

  51. === you’re telling me reporters are just lining up to talk to you about how great this situation is?===

    See, we’re not going to do this.

    You got challenged, you can’t name a reporter, so now you want me to be the one who failed in a silly statement.

    Nope. You can’t name one. It’s not on me. Good try.

    You don’t like being called out.

    One name only…

    Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 10:49 pm

  52. OW. Certainly easy to say the argument you’re making. Please try to keep up. We don’t name reporters. You simply can’t name one that supports and I will not endanger someone’s ability to do their job.

    Please feel free to take your ball and go home.

    Comment by Snakepliskin Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 10:53 pm

  53. === We don’t name reporters.===

    Then why say they’re being censored?

    This is adorbs…

    ===You simply can’t name one that supports===

    The gaslighting your failure to name one, by calling *me* to do something I never arbitrarily claimed, lol

    “Ok”

    === Please feel free to take your ball and go home.===

    I have no idea in any context what you’re saying.

    Ya started with this utter ignorance…

    === It was my understanding he wasn’t allowing all media into his pressers anymore. Has he opened it up to all media?===

    Which ended with…

    ===Please feel free to take your ball and go home.===

    … still no name to boot.

    Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 10:58 pm

  54. Small nuance on property taxes as not a state issue: state law governs the 18% annual interest rate Cook County charged for late taxpayers. I don’t know if that is just for Cook or for all counties. It would be nice if the GA and the Gov changed that law for a much lower interest payment for those who can’t pay their property tax this year.

    Comment by Dan Johnson Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 11:12 pm

  55. Name one reporter?
    Why? So that retribution can be had against the journal courier, pantograph, journal star, southern, news Democrat? No. The freedom of the press should not be held to such folly. It is a precious thing that should be held to high standards.
    Limiting your argument as you laid out previously Asking for someone who has complained about such limitations makes you seem like joe McCarthy.

    Comment by Snakepliskin Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 11:15 pm

  56. === Asking for someone who has complained about such limitations makes you seem like joe McCarthy===

    More gaslighting. Is this all you have?

    Let’s revisit;

    === It was my understanding he wasn’t allowing all media into his pressers anymore. Has he opened it up to all media===

    This was your premise. Which was wrong.

    Now you’re trying to claim wilder things, gaslighting to confuse.

    === The freedom of the press should not be held to such folly.===

    Who has questions not answered? That’s easy enough to say. Heck, if they’re not getting questions answered now…

    You wanted to make this point that first it’s limited, then censored, then fear.

    You haven’t made that point. Gaslighting me isn’t making the point either.

    Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 11:22 pm

  57. What’s gaslighting mean?

    Comment by Snakepliskin Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 11:27 pm

  58. === What’s gaslighting mean?===

    Google is your friend. You know, but asking me… is also a textbook gaslighting, trying to have me question myself.

    I’m good. It’s all ya got.

    “G’Nite Gracie”

    Next time, try to be a bit smarter.

    Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 11:32 pm

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