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We got our hands on some exclusive polling about one of the hottest issues in Springfield: the Invest in Kids Act, a scholarship program that’s set to end Dec. 31 if the General Assembly doesn’t act.

About the law: The law gives tax credits to those who contribute to the scholarship program, which benefits low-income families at non-public schools. It’s opposed by the Chicago Teachers Union.

The topline takeaway: Two-thirds of Illinois voters support the program, “especially” parents, voters of color and voters with annual incomes under $40,000, according to the polling memo from Brian Stryker and Oren Savir, the pollsters who count President Joe Biden as a client.

More details: “Support remains unchanged after voters hear statements from both proponents and critics of the program,” according to the poll memo. Most of those surveyed weren’t even bothered by statements such as: “Wealthy Illinoisans get to take their tax dollars, give them to private schools, and leave public schools underfunded.”

1) According to the polling memo itself, the program is supported by Illinoisans 56-25, not “two-thirds.”

2) We don’t know the wording of the poll’s support or oppose question because it was not in the polling memo.

3) Here are the pros and cons presented to respondents

Supporters say this program provides low income kids, including many children of color, with a high-quality education they may not have gotten from their local public school. And it doesn’t use a dime of taxpayer money to do it—it is all funded through private donations.

Opponents say this is a school voucher program that funds private schools through a seventy-five million dollar tax break for millionaires and corporations. Wealthy Illinoisans get to take their tax dollars, give them to private schools, and leave public schools underfunded.

The donations qualify for a 75 percent state income tax credit. That’s money the state would’ve normally received.

Methodology

Findings are based on a phone and text-to-web survey conducted August 16-21, 2023 among n=600 likely 2024 general election voters in Illinois. The margin of error for the full sample is +/- 4%; for subgroups it varies and is higher.

* From Sen. Durbin

Our immigration courts are essential to a functional and orderly immigration system, but they are in desperate need of reform and improvements. As of August 2023, there were more than 2.6 million pending cases before the nation’s immigration courts. As a result, many immigrants must wait for years until their cases are decided.

While the Department of Justice has made significant progress in hiring more immigration judges, reducing this backlog will require additional efforts. For example, similar advances have not yet been made in hiring the support staff that judges need to help efficiently manage their daily dockets, reduce the backlog, and stay on top of new cases.

* WAND TV

Federal investigators found that a lack of preventative maintenance on the explosion suppression system of a bucket elevator was a major factor in an April 21, 2023, explosion at Archer-Daniels-Midland Company’s West Plant that resulted in the hospitalization of three employees with burns and other injuries and extensive damage to the grain elevator

U.S. Department of Labor’s Occupational Safety and Health Administration investigators responding to the combustible corn germ dust explosion determined that the explosion suppression system on the indoor bucket elevator leg was non-functional and in a state of disrepair. Investigators found the Decatur grain processing facility had not conducted inspections and testing of the explosion suppression systems since late 2016. […]

OSHA cited ADM for two willful, one serious and one other-than-serious health and safety violations and proposed $324,796 in penalties related to this explosion at the West Plant.

* Update on yesterday’s story

Despite “heroic efforts” to protect animals threatened by a fire at Miller Park Zoo, officials said late Tuesday afternoon that a 20-foot reticulated python had to be euthanized due to smoke exposure.

The 11-year-old snake, named Nani, had lived at the zoo since 2017. A faulty heating element in her habitat was found to be the source of a fire at the historic Katthoefer Animal Building where a number of animals are housed.

* Isabel’s roundup…

posted by Rich Miller
Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 2:49 pm

Comments

  1. Re: Survey

    === We got our hands on some exclusive polling ===

    That tells me all I need to know.

    Comment by H-W Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 3:03 pm

  2. Re: WBEZ story on St. Louis, I have to wonder if the Governor of MO and the Legislature and Courts might step in to prevent this reasonable solution. Missouri is not Illinois. They do some crazy stuff over there.

    Comment by H-W Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 3:10 pm

  3. “the program is supported by Illinoisans 56-25″

    that includes JB way back in Oct 2022 when he was candidate Pritzker…

    The Chicago Sun-Times and WBEZ asked 19 questions of the three gubernatorial candidates on the Nov. 8 ballot in an effort to easily show voters the differences among them.

    14. Do you support Illinois’ tax credit scholarship program that provides financial support for students to attend private and parochial schools? YES

    https://chicago.suntimes.com/elections/2022/10/18/23409566/19-questions-candidates-illinois-governor-pritzker-bailey-schluter-wbez-suntimes-issues

    Comment by Donnie Elgin Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 3:13 pm

  4. Missouri has a long and rich history of immigration….

    https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/476408-missouri-governor-says-state-will-accept-refugees/

    Comment by Southern IL Bob Too Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 3:18 pm

  5. It’s never about helping kids. It’s always about financially starving public schools- or more precisely their unionized teachers. Every single time.

    Comment by West Sider Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 3:22 pm

  6. The Invest in Kids scheme is based on two important prongs;

    The maximizing of a tax credit to maximize donations

    The students being mere “vessels” to private schools already teaching the same students (at times) but getting “full value” for the seat.

    That’s it.

    It’s not about actual school choice, as not all students will have the exact opportunity to attend, and if the same altruism existed, we’d already hear about the heroes that won’t let down these students, “no matter what Springfield does”

    It’s odd no one talks about how this will hurt the schools. Why is that.

    I mean, if it’s a net zero for the schools… but it’s not. It’s getting full “value of price” for students who may be getting “work to school” kind of donations from families or discounts…

    Won’t someone think about the private schools?

    Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 3:27 pm

  7. “more precisely their unionized teachers”

    The program helps kids from families in poverty, IEA wants to make it about race.

    https://ieanea.org/2023/10/17/illinois-education-association-statement-on-new-invest-in-kids-act-proposal/

    ““We believe the new Invest in Kids voucher scheme proposal acknowledges that more white students have been helped by the program than anyone else, even though proponents have tried to tout the program as helping Black and Brown students”

    Comment by Donnie Elgin Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 3:31 pm

  8. =that includes JB way back in Oct 2022==

    Intelligent people often change their minds when they learn more about a topic.

    Comment by Big Dipper Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 3:31 pm

  9. === The program helps kids from families in poverty, IEA wants to make it about race.===

    Cite the truth to that. Not in words.

    Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 3:34 pm

  10. =that includes JB way back in Oct 2022=

    It’s possible that he supported the program as it exists (with its scheduled sunset date) but opposed an extension into 2024.

    Comment by cover Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 3:36 pm

  11. ===It’s possible that he supported===

    The dude has literally been all over the map on this one.

    Comment by Rich Miller Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 3:44 pm

  12. Inveat in Kid donations would be tax exempt donatios if they didn’t get bonus money from the state. Nothing to prevent that or . Empower Illinois is doing some heavy lobbying and also attacking others that are not as bad as they say. Their take on IAR is just as dishonest as A nation at risk was. If they

    Comment by DTownResident Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 3:46 pm

  13. Thought I had written more before. There is not any reason why Empower couldn’t still administer this as a tax deductible private scholarship treated equally as other school donations.

    Comment by DTownResident Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 3:53 pm

  14. Maybe whatever school the pollster went to taught biblical passages instead of math and science.

    Comment by Drury's Missing Clock Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 3:55 pm

  15. “The program helps kids from families in poverty … .”

    As long as they don’t have physical / developmental issues, require an IEP, require ADA accomodations, or need a full-time aide.

    Comment by Anyone Remember Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 3:56 pm

  16. “Won’t someone think about the private schools?”

    Gotcha covered.

    There certainly seems to be a new push for it coming from somewhere.

    One of the city council members in Joliet was making statements about it during a council meeting last night, 1hr27m42s in the video of the meeting. He stated he attended an informational meeting at a diocese school and then asked out loud if the city council could invite someone from the diocese to give a presentation to the city during a council meeting.

    Comment by TheInvisibleMan Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 3:56 pm

  17. “The program helps kids from families in poverty … .”. as long as it is a small percentage so that it is not enough kids that the other kids in the school look for another school. Also, diner have actual data on how the kids are performing…easy to claim “success” when you only have data for the “other”. When Indiana kept track their kids in the voucher program did worse than their peers even four or five years into the private school. U of I people who did more extensive research determined when you accounted for income differences, private school kids did slightly better in English and slightly worse in math. Not sure most of what we call differences are not mostly demographics c and rather than the teachers and such.

    Comment by DTownResident Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 4:01 pm

  18. ” the pollster went to taught biblical passages instead of math and science”

    I would blame the miscalculation on the POLITICO writer, not the pollster. The polling memo is correct about the 2/3 of Black and Latino respondents…

    • A majority of voters support the Invest in Kids Scholarship Tax Credit program, including more than 2/3 of voters of color. Support is broad and encompasses voters across the state and regardless of race or income: Total Support Total Oppose Net Total 56 25 +31 Parents 58 22 +36 Black 66 14 +52 Latino 74 17 +5

    Comment by Donnie Elgin Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 4:06 pm

  19. I am a retired public school employee and a product of the Catholic schools. My class of ‘66 members support a scholarship program at our high school. Any donations are tax deductible. I know both public and private schools need more money. My former school employer is in Central Illinois (not BloNo) covering a lot of farmland and a couple manufacturers. The tax base is not the same as the suburbs. I understand that they can’t keep asking the locals for property tax increases.

    Comment by Nearly Normal Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 4:15 pm

  20. “My class of ‘66 members support a scholarship program at our high school”

    That is commendable - the Invest in Kids program allows individuals to make donations to a scholarship-granting organization - which opens up opportunities for less well-off families to choose to attend one of the hundreds of private/parochial schools that may help their kids.

    Comment by Donnie Elgin Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 4:31 pm

  21. AR @ 3:56 is on it.

    Don’t forget discipline problems. I’d love to see the crosstabs on ‘invested kids’ being athletes.

    Comment by Jocko Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 4:34 pm

  22. The logical progression of the Invest in Kids Act is the end of the public school system.
    And I don’t think that’s what most people want.
    But that’s where it’s heading.

    Comment by TinyDancer(FKASue) Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 4:43 pm

  23. @ Jocko

    I’d like to see a crosstab on poverty/not poverty.

    Comment by H-W Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 5:12 pm

  24. @Nearly Normal for the win.

    =“We believe the new Invest in Kids voucher scheme proposal=

    That is the proper description.

    And…any school that gets public money should have to follow every word or the Illinois School Code.

    Comment by JS Mill Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 5:46 pm

  25. And what exactly does a modern, social bathhouse look like exactly?

    Comment by loyal virus Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 6:24 pm

  26. ===look like exactly? ===

    Click the link.

    Comment by Rich Miller Wednesday, Oct 18, 23 @ 7:16 pm

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