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* Your thoughts on yesterday’s SAFE-T Act ruling?
posted by Rich Miller
Wednesday, Jul 19, 23 @ 10:19 am
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Votes were split along party lines. Judges are human so some subjectivity should be expected but political ideology seems to be dictating judicial rulings at an alarming rate. Because our judicial system is the final word on issues that affect us all it’s essential that decisions are being made objectively using logic and intellect as opposed to politics.
Comment by Cubs in '16 Wednesday, Jul 19, 23 @ 10:33 am
I should’ve added that I believe logic and intellect were appropriately applied with this ruling.
Comment by Cubs in '16 Wednesday, Jul 19, 23 @ 10:41 am
Correct decision. “Bail” will be converted from an assembly line process to an individualized process. Gloom & doom is coming from parties that will have to work harder.
Comment by Anyone Remember Wednesday, Jul 19, 23 @ 11:00 am
I think it will end up being a positive thing. I think the opponents are fear mongering. What till they find out poor people are entitled to a free attorney and that all of he crook that get arrested and they are crooks because otherwise they would not be arrested are told they can keep their mouth shut and not talk
Comment by DuPage Saint Wednesday, Jul 19, 23 @ 11:01 am
Interesting that “bail” can mean whatever lawmakers say it means (and presumably, “bearable arms” next) but yet “diminish and impair” somehow have clear and unassailable meanings that lie outside the scope of discussion and debate
Comment by JB13 Wednesday, Jul 19, 23 @ 11:01 am
Just another excess of the super majority party. We find ourselves alone, as the only state to take such an extreme position on cash bail. Ho hum. Democrats gonna democrat.
Comment by James Wednesday, Jul 19, 23 @ 11:09 am
Not crazy about the law, but upholding it as constitutional seems like the right decision.
Comment by lake county democrat Wednesday, Jul 19, 23 @ 11:10 am
I think the easy part is over. Defending cashless bail every time someone commits a crime while out on bail is going to be exhausting. I hope everyone involved is prepared for that, because this is ultimately a good thing.
Comment by Sox Fan Wednesday, Jul 19, 23 @ 11:10 am
Wait until JB13 finds out that money is backed by “full faith and credit”.
Comment by Jocko Wednesday, Jul 19, 23 @ 11:13 am
To the question, it depends on who you ask. To me, bail was always intended as a promise to appear in court…not a punishment for those without means (or a fine for those with extraordinary amounts of money).
Comment by Jocko Wednesday, Jul 19, 23 @ 11:16 am
=but yet “diminish and impair” somehow have clear and unassailable meanings that lie outside the scope of discussion and debate=
Glad you see that clearly.
Comment by JS Mill Wednesday, Jul 19, 23 @ 11:25 am
We will have to wait and see. It looks like they will be able to hold many felons with no bond. The question is will they enforce it. As it is now, some county D.A.s enforce violent felony cases, and others tend to “let them go”.
Comment by DuPage Wednesday, Jul 19, 23 @ 11:32 am
The ruling was correct and will put IL on the path from a better criminal justice system. As with all reform efforts, two things will happen. First, opponents will demagogue the issue. Second, some corrections will inevitably arise to be addressed. Now that the law enforcement folks who chose the path of demagoguery have lost, they should consider working with folks to ensure the process works.
Comment by Norseman Wednesday, Jul 19, 23 @ 11:34 am
==Interesting that “bail” can mean whatever lawmakers say it means==
Speaking of “what do words mean”, that’s not what the majority opinion said.
Comment by Arsenal Wednesday, Jul 19, 23 @ 11:40 am
===that’s not what the majority opinion said===
Don’t feed the trolls.
Comment by Rich Miller Wednesday, Jul 19, 23 @ 11:41 am
==We find ourselves alone, as the only state==
You do realize someone has to be first.
Comment by Big Dipper Wednesday, Jul 19, 23 @ 11:44 am
Sox fan is correct. The easy part is over.
After seeing the statement Jim Glasgow put out last night, it’s going to be a circus as long as he is in charge of that county office.
Because in his, not at all joking words;
“Unfortunately, the citizens of Illinois who are the sovereign authority were not consulted in this significant matter.”
Comment by TheInvisibleMan Wednesday, Jul 19, 23 @ 11:58 am
If you and I get nabbed for the same crime and you have money to bail out but I don’t is just not fair. That needed to change. These repeat offenders who are let out in Cook County and commit crimes while out does need to be changed also. Glad they amended the original law to help on some of that but they really need to keep repeat offenders behind bars. Fairness should be a two way street…fairness to accused and also fairness to future victims of the most egregious repeat offenders so they can not become victims.
Comment by Chicago Wednesday, Jul 19, 23 @ 12:00 pm
===Defending cashless bail every time someone commits a crime while out on bail is going to be exhausting.===
Defendants who are out on cash bail commit crimes too. That argument would be against all bail.
Comment by Cubs in '16 Wednesday, Jul 19, 23 @ 12:22 pm
In my opinion it’s a correct decision. I’m not sure how the counties that had filed the suit will move forward, but that’s another question.
Comment by Friendly Bob Adams Wednesday, Jul 19, 23 @ 12:53 pm
It’s the correct ruling.
The answer to the question, “it’s the correct ruling”
The aftermath might/could/“should” be trailer bills exist for a reason…as this new law is seen and how it works going forward.
I learned as pointed out by Stephanie Kollmann in a very smart tweet…
…58 elected IL state’s attorneys and sheriffs were completely wrong about the constitutional rights of Illinoisans…
It’s smart to the realities of the aftermath that going forward I will think twice when these same folks chime in and I’ll likely feel as I did then that these folks are out of their depth.
The discussion to legality is over.
Winners. Make. Policy.
Constitutional. Policy.
Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Jul 19, 23 @ 1:02 pm
My thought is that there will not be world ending consequences as is being suggested by some.
Comment by Demoralized Wednesday, Jul 19, 23 @ 1:39 pm
Whether you agree with the law or not, it is clearly constitutional and a disappointment that was not seen 7-0.
Comment by Lurker Wednesday, Jul 19, 23 @ 3:06 pm
==a disappointment that was not seen 7-0.==
Well Holder White is running for the seat in a Republican district and saw what happened to Kilbride so she is not going to rock the boat.
Comment by Big Dipper Wednesday, Jul 19, 23 @ 9:03 pm