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* This is bunk…

Renae Eze, press secretary for Abbott, told Fox News Digital that Lightfoot and Pritzker are “absolute hypocrites.”

“So much for Chicago’s ‘Welcoming City Ordinance.’ These Democrat elites are absolute hypocrites, and now their hypocrisy is on full display for the entire nation. Governor Pritzker and Mayor Lightfoot have been complaining about a few hundred migrants being bused into self-declared sanctuary city Chicago, then turn around and dump them in the suburbs for Republican mayors to deal with. Instead of complaining about fulfilling their ‘welcoming city’ promises, these Democrat hypocrites should call on President Biden to do his job and secure the border—something the President continues failing to do,” she said.

Texas is literally dumping asylum seekers at Union Station, often in the middle of the night with no real notice. Illinois, Chicago and Cook County then have to scramble to put those folks in hotels or other shelters and provide them with services. The suburban mayors don’t have to “deal with” a single thing, just like they wouldn’t if somebody booked a wedding at a hotel in their towns. And on that point, here’s IDHS Director Grace Hou-Ovnik yesterday…

There have been many questions about how we’ve identified hotel rooms. Well, I would say to anyone who has had the privilege of planning or hosting a large wedding or a conference, you will know that finding of block of rooms for 100 people usually takes over a year. And as the governor said, sometimes we have three hours, sometimes we have 12 hours. So in addition to just plain availability, we want to assure that those regions also have the access to support services. And we’ve also returned to hotels that have previously welcomed Afghans earlier this year. With support from the National Guard we can work ahead more strategically in built up shelter capacity and other types of settings.

* And Mayor Lightfoot conceded yesterday that suburban mayors should be informed and would be…

I also want to make sure that we continue to talk to, as I have, with our suburban mayors and village town presidents, I think we’ve had some productive conversations over the last few days. And we need to make sure that they are in the loop. No one No mayor wants folks coming to other city without advance notice, to be able to ask all the questions, and frankly, be in a position to answer the questions of the residents. That is right. And it’s fair. And we’re going to do our part to make sure that that happens.

I hope they keep that promise because it’s only right, even though local mayors don’t have to do anything unless they want to help. Countryside Mayor Sean McDermott, for example, has really stepped up and is helping coordinate donations for folks in local hotel rooms.

* This is the old game of Own the Libs and is designed to provoke the exact sort of outrage that Gov. Pritzker and Mayor Lightfoot and others are displaying. They should probably just calm down because this Texas dude is clearly enjoying his time in the limelight. I mean, just check this out. Abbott appears to have coordinated with the local media, but not local officials…

Outside the naval observatory where Texas just dropped off two bus loads of migrants outside the VP’s residence. pic.twitter.com/vmUmduFZrT

— Ryan King (@thatkingthing) September 15, 2022

* And I’m not sayin’, but just sayin’ this does indeed remind some folks about another “Own the Libs” stunt during a prior era…

To embarrass Northern liberals and humiliate Black people, southern White Citizens Councils started their so-called "Reverse Freedom Rides," giving Black people one-way tickets to northern cities with false promises of jobs, housing, and better lives.https://t.co/xLpTjxG0PD pic.twitter.com/voiPBbwRuN

— JFK Library (@JFKLibrary) September 15, 2022

* Back to Abbott’s point that the governor and the mayor should be putting pressure on the Biden administration. Here’s Mayor Lightfoot again…

I was in Washington DC last week, talking to members of Customs and Border Patrol, national FEMA, ICE and DHS. And we made it very clear, I made it very clear that our expectation is that they were going to have a plan that features communication and collaboration with interior cities. And they must do that, and they must do that soon. I know that they are under enormous pressures. This is not a new challenge at the border, but this is a new challenge for us. And we need federal support, resources, communication and collaboration and that has to come in short order.

What I will also say as I said there, any dollar that goes to the state of Texas, or the state of Arizona, or any other state that is abdicating its responsibility and manufacturing this crisis in our cities, every single one of those dollars needs to be re-committed to cities like Chicago, New York, and Washington DC. We should not, and taxpayer dollars should not be used to pay for this kind of callous, inhumane treatment on the part of someone who is racing to the bottom for a political stunt. Those monies need to be reprogrammed and come to us to help support the efforts that we are engaged in to support the migrants who are coming to our cities.

posted by Rich Miller
Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 11:20 am

Comments

==They should probably just calm down because this Texas dude is clearly enjoying his time in the limelight.==

I kinda suspect every politician wins with this, though. Abbott gets points with his constituency for outraging liberals, and MLL and JBP get points with theirs for expressing outrage. That is not to say that this is a work; there is good reason to be outraged, and everything I’ve seen strongly indicates that the two camps aren’t talking enough for this to have been coordinated. And it doesn’t apply to every politician; Biden wouldn’t benefit from being an active part of this dispute, for example.

And then there’s the biggest thing: there’s real human suffering at the heart of this, and that should control over everything else.

Comment by Arsenal Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 11:27 am
“Outside the naval observatory where Texas just dropped off two bus loads of migrants outside the VP’s residence.”

They didn’t just pack the “undesirables” into box-cars?

Probably saving that for Stufe Zwei.

– MrJM

Comment by MisterJayEm Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 11:27 am
Until the madness stops of thousands showing up to apply for asylum : this will continue. Laws need to changed. No one should be able to apply for asylum within 1000 miles of the U.S. border. Their hearing should be done by Zoom.

Comment by Steve Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 11:33 am
Not to be outdone, Governor Desantis gets into the action.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-62911630

Comment by 47th Ward Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 11:34 am
“No one should be able to apply for asylum within 1000 miles of the U.S. border.”

How’d your people get here, Steve?

Who invited them?

– MrJM

Comment by MisterJayEm Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 11:35 am
The soulless E-Van-Gel-Eye-Cals that are cheering a governor treating actual human beings like sacks of corn… see y’all in church.

This “Christian” trope that has “the rule of law to own the libs” ugliness… it’s about hurting people “not like us”, that don’t “look like us”… and are “less than us”

That’s the real sickness here, for those “cheering” these things.

Now throw in what America is, welcoming all seeking a better life, leaving ravaged lands, lint in their pockets, if they even have pockets, and seeking the American dream.

This ain’t no “NIMBY”… this is anger about race. This has nothing to do with what these folks are seeking asylum.

But please, tell me about the hours and “stuff” you or your church does, but welcoming those in need…

Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 11:36 am
And these are the so called “Christians.”

What an embarrassment.

Comment by So_Ill Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 11:37 am
- Steve -

You just alienated ALL of Europe and Asia.

Congratulations

Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 11:43 am
-How’d your people get here, Steve?-
They came here legally before the 1924 Act.

Comment by Steve Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 11:49 am
Steve please let us know which group of Native American and or First Nation’s you belong to.

Comment by Give Me A Break Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 11:51 am
-You just alienated ALL of Europe and Asia.-

It’s very easy to have signs up on your front lawn that says “no human is illegal”. But, many communities don’t have the housing and other resources for asylum seekers. Who exactly is supposed to pay? The tooth fairy?

Comment by Steve Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 11:53 am
==And these are the so called “Christians.”==

Hillary nailed it re deplorables.

Comment by Big Dipper Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 11:56 am
=Not to be outdone, Governor Desantis gets into the action.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-62911630=

Well, at least he flew them to the Vineyard. Hopefully they got to eat at the County of Dukes County airport. It has a decent restaurant.

Comment by ThePAMan Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 11:57 am
===1924===

Join us in the 21st century.

===But===

… they’re not “like us”

We’re the richest country in the world, claiming poor is a dodge.

===Who exactly is supposed to pay? The tooth fairy?===

All I hear is employers need workers, right?

Anything else?

Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 11:59 am
“They came here legally before the 1924 Act.”

You know that asylum seekers are here seeking asylum (the hint is in the name) and do so legally under 8 U.S. Code § 1158 and applicable international laws, right?

You did know that, didn’t you, Steve?

Or are you spouting-off from a position of complete ignorance?

– MrJM

Comment by MisterJayEm Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 12:00 pm
===They should probably just calm down===

I disagree with this pretty strongly. Give these fascists an inch and they’ll take a mile. Pritzker et. al. are doing the absolute right thing by looking closely at criminal liability for this stuff. The reports out of Martha’s Vineyard last night indicate the folks did not know where they were, and may have been lied to about their destination. Actual human trafficking shouldn’t be tolerated just because it’s intended to provoke outrage.

Asylum seekers declare themselves to the federal government and then are released pending resolution of their case. They’re not in the US illegally. Absolute freedom of movement is a cornerstone of liberty in our country. Texas should experience serious consequences for engaging in forced population transfer. If those consequences “prove their point” or “make us look owned,” I don’t care and neither should Pritzker.

Comment by vern Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 12:01 pm
Is anyone really surprised that local government officials in the Chicago suburbs are demonstrating their standard and consistent pattern of racism and xenophobia?

Regardless we should expect people campaigning on racism and bigotry to be coming up with very many original thoughts. They have hate in their hearts and it dominates how they view the world.

Comment by Candy Dogood Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 12:02 pm
“Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore.”

Comment by 47th Ward Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 12:03 pm
=No one should be able to apply for asylum within 1000 miles of the U.S. border.=

As a reference to how (likely banned word) this comment is- 1,000 miles south of the US border is approximately Oaxaca City, a 19 hour drive from the border.

Comment by Former Downstater Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 12:03 pm
just like with much of modern gop policy, the cruelty is the point

Comment by left of what Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 12:04 pm
As I read about Abbott’s actions I thought of Bailey’s press conference yesterday. Both are trying to score political points of the suffering of individuals.

How hard would it be Abbott, to coordinate with Illinois?

Comment by G'Kar Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 12:06 pm
===absolute right thing by looking closely at criminal liability for this stuff===

Don’t disagree with that. But right now we’re talking hundreds of people and the volume is turned up to 11.

Comment by Rich Miller Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 12:08 pm
=Until the madness stops of thousands showing up to apply for asylum : this will continue. Laws need to changed.=

Thanks Steve. I appreciate your honesty on the topic. I don’t agree with anything that you’ve said, but you’ve made something very clear for those of us paying attention.

This isn’t about “illegal immigration” it’s about denying entry into our country to anyone that we don’t like. Asylum seekers have every legal right to be here. We grant asylum as a welcoming nation recognizing the oppression that exists around the world. We’ve fought many wars due to such oppression. But Steve makes his view abundantly clear. You might have a legal right to come here, which should be changed, but you are not welcomed.

Comment by Pundent Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 12:10 pm
“1,000 miles south of the US border” so you’re saying someone from, say, Cuba or Canada or Russia would have to travel 900 miles further away to apply?

Comment by Skeptic Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 12:12 pm
Congress can’t even pass a law to help the Dreamers, let alone address the overall issue. Besides all the political hay and outrage one man interviewed in DC said he was trying to get to NY. He’s a lot closer now. These people are here to work and make US dollars. How would they do that in a barracks in middle of nowhere in Texas? The land of opportunity, they made it. People give their lives trying to get here. So yes coordination needs to happen but the reaction from mayor and Gov has been a bit odd

Comment by Billions Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 12:13 pm
“many communities don’t have the housing and other resources for asylum seekers. Who exactly is supposed to pay?”

If your family did arrive before 1924, they slipped into the country when the inflation-adjusted, per capita real GDP in the United States was nearly 25% lower than it is today.

If a much poorer U.S. could afford to take in your family, then a wealthier U.S. should be able to afford asylum seekers today, right?

Or is there some other reason why you want to pull up the ladder behind you?

– MrJM

Comment by MisterJayEm Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 12:17 pm
-Their hearing should be done by Zoom.-

So as to limit the ability to seek asylum based on wealth, language, internet access and the ability to know what Zoom is and access it. Nice. /s

Comment by Ron Burgundy Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 12:20 pm
I’m glad people are calling this out for what it is: Kidnapping and possible human trafficking.

Like @lib_crusher said on Twitter this morning:
Based DeSantis DESTROYS the globo**** c***s by human trafficking underage girls to Alan Dershowitz’s front lawn

Comment by Hot Taeks Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 12:24 pm
-Their hearing should be done by Zoom.-

Maybe we’d have more empathy for poverty stricken asylum seekers if they posted a few Tik Tok videos on the living conditions in their country or talked about it a bit more on Facebook. /s

Comment by Pundent Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 12:24 pm
===the volume is turned up to 11===

Yea, it’s a problem. I just worry that bad (or even criminal) actors are starting to see “turning up the volume” as a get-out-of-accountability-free card. There aren’t a lot of deescalation options when dealing with bullies.

Comment by vern Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 12:29 pm
-If a much poorer U.S. could afford to take in your family, then a wealthier U.S. should be able to afford asylum seekers today, right?-

Then Lori Lightfoot and Chicago taxpayers can pick up the tab. CPS is losing students.

Comment by Steve Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 12:37 pm
==Then Lori Lightfoot and Chicago taxpayers can pick up the tab.==

And they are, so.

Comment by Arsenal Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 12:39 pm
== Chicago taxpayers==

We already subsidize state services/infrastructure for downstate, I’m sure we can handle a few hundred more people. I mean the way downstate is losing residents over the last decade we can probably cut some services and help these people out.

Comment by twowaystreet Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 12:40 pm
===And they are, so.===

- Steve - is looking for outs to justify the want of denying “those not like him” a chance

We’re the richest country in the world, we have countless jobs unfilled, we are in need of population growth my immigration

Maybe - Steve - is like Trump where it matters “where” the folks are coming from…

===No one should be able to apply for asylum within 1000 miles of the U.S. border. Their hearing should be done by Zoom.===

Exactly.

Tattling on yourself isbt a good look

Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 12:44 pm
Chicago has a lot of commercial vacant square footage. Maybe it can be leased out and the asylum seekers could live there? Vacant CPS buildings? Anyway, Chicago is a decent place for non-English speakers to live and work because there are so many non-English speakers in Chicago.

Comment by Steve Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 12:46 pm
===Chicago is a decent place for non-English speakers to live and work because there are so many non-English speakers in Chicago.===

The City of Broad Shoulders.

The 2nd largest city in the world where Polish is spoken…

The thing is, - Steve - in your whole mocking of CPS buildings and vacant retail, the mocking of the diversity of Chicago is really where your biases and race thinking is seen… and you see your racial views as “decent”

It’s breathtaking how you see the world, and tell us about that view

Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 12:51 pm
==- Steve - Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 12:46 pm:==

I imagine being your neighbor is rough. You’re so busy looking over other people’s fences to criticize their yard maintenance that you haven’t had the time to mow your own grass all summer.

Comment by twowaystreet Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 1:01 pm
Steve - why don’t you get a bus ticket and head for Texas? One thing we won’t do is force you to go, you are a human being (aren’t you?). You should be treated like one, no matter how repulsive your beliefs may be.

Comment by Lincoln Lad Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 1:05 pm
Republicans decry a lack of border security is creating incentives for people to cross the U.S.-Mexican border. Therefore, Republicans shall disincentivize this behavior by very publicly driving and flying said people to places that are portrayed in international media as first class destinations. Problem solved.

Comment by Nuke the Whales Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 1:25 pm
Our laws allow asylum seekers to enter the country and move about with few restrictions pending resolution of their request for asylum. If there is a cost to having them here, the cost should be borne by the federal government.
I think we need to have a massive increase in the number of Administrative Law judges to resolve the asylum requests. If each judge resolved 4 cases a day, 250 days a year, it would take 1,000 judges and supporting staff to resolve 1,000,000 cases. That would not keep up with the inflow. Maybe 3.000 extra judges could make a dent in the backlog. I have not heard anyone calling for that staffing.

Comment by Last Bull Moose Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 1:43 pm
I’ve never been to Martha’s Vineyard.

Comment by City Zen Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 1:45 pm
This has political theater written all over it. Sources are predicting 10,000 asylum seekers before 2023. There is another bus arriving tonight and one on the way(unconfirmed). This doesn’t end well for anyone. As an IL resident it is concerning on many fronts. How do we pay for and provide proper care for this influx? In the short term it puts the burden on the state without Federal funding. I was blown away they got approval for the National Guard to be used.

Comment by Cermak Dr. Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 2:17 pm
vern I think you have it backwards. The reaction helps Abbott. The way to turn it around on Abbott would be if Pritzker & others started talking about them as additions to the state’s workforce and stopped talking about them as people to be taken care of.

Comment by Blake Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 2:17 pm
===I was blown away they got approval for the National Guard to be used.===

Governors control their state’s national guard, no?

If you’re so concerned or worried about 10,000 folks coming… are you also one that complains that 100,000 Illinoisans left?

If you believe 100,000 people left Illinois, getting 10,000 back should be an easy thing?

Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 2:21 pm
Sean McDermott is a superb mayor. Excellent leader/public servant. Should go for higher office!

Comment by Dearborn Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 2:25 pm
A few hundred asylum seekers is less than 10,000.

Comment by Steve Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 2:30 pm
===The way to turn it around on Abbott would be if Pritzker & others started talking about them as additions===

“Thank you sir, may I have another” is an insufficient response to human trafficking.

Comment by vern Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 2:30 pm
===A few hundred asylum seekers is less than 10,000.===

I have no idea what this means. Further, if you’re now downplaying these folks versus “10,000” by 2023… what exactly has been your point in ANY of this?

Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 2:33 pm
I thought the best play for Lightfoot and JB would have been to troll Abbott. Point out he’s mistreating asylum seeking fleeing a communist government, making him a commie sympathizer. Then just give a low-outrage “we can handle this.”

But as has been pointed out here, the mayor and governor enjoy a political advantage in cranking up the outrage.

Comment by Roman Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 2:36 pm
“OW”
I’m not concerned with any of it other than making sure they are taken care of. The City of Chicago officials are concerned with it. I also don’t care how many leave. By the time it gets to me it has been over a few years since the start.

Comment by Cermak Dr. Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 2:48 pm
I live here and can’t imagine being dropped off in Chicago with my family and not have a place to go, money, or speak the primary language.

Comment by Cermak Dr. Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 2:54 pm
Are the people being transported to Illinois only asylum seekers? If not, even if one accepts the Abbott/DeSantis agenda of transporting immigrants to other locations out of state, two or three wrongs don’t make a right.

Arrest drivers or pilots, seize buses and airplanes. Protect and welcome the immigrants but arrest/seize those transporting and the modes of transport. It may slow the agenda down. 8 U.S. Code § 1324, Bringing in and harboring certain aliens, seems to apply (asylum seekers not?) and has good remedies (arrest and seize modes of transport). Or better yet, is there a state law that would apply? I am no expert, but if a coyote can be arrested, what makes these transporters any different?

Comment by Mr. D Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 2:58 pm
==How do we pay for and provide proper care for this influx?==

Chicago has been a sanctuary city since 1982. It has a playbook for every possible scenario and should be more than prepared for anything that comes their way. Contingency plans on top of contingency plans, budgets/rainy day funds for such events, etc. Chicago will be fine. They just need to stick to their plan.

Chicago, as a well-prepared sanctuary city, should share that playbook with any other unit of government so they too can follow the same game plan. The governor should request this ASAP if he already hasn’t.

Comment by City Zen Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 3:21 pm
Seriously, someone proposes “stick them in vacant buildings” as a solution? I can’t even.

Comment by The Velvet Frog Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 3:52 pm
We know how to do this. Stop complaining and do the work. It is a reason to be proud of Illinois.

We should figure out a way to give some of these people temporary work permits, while waiting for their asylum hearings. Places like the Elk Grove industrial park, and small retail and restaurants are all begging for more entry level labor. Some or our Mayors are creative entrepreneurs — act like it.

Comment by Walker Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 3:54 pm
I wish the Governor and Mayor would have paid attention to the immigration issue prior to a few hundred people being sent to Chicago. The Biden administration’s policies have fostered an influx of 1.3 million migrants since taking office. That number does not include get-aways which is estimated at a million more. Clearly, small border towns do not have the resources to absorb that number of people.

If transferring migrants on air-conditioned modes of transportation to other cities within the United States is a human rights violation, isn’t leaving the border open to incentivize thousands of people making dangerous journeys also a human rights abuse. Migrants including children have drowned and died in the back of hot trucks trying to get into the country.

Obviously, Abbott, DeSantis, and Ducey actions are stunts and not productive. There needs to be better coordination and people need to be treated with dignity and respect. However, this situation stems from the federal government’s lack of coherent strategy. Only now due to this recent kerfuffle has the Biden Administration been quietly negotiating with Mexico to house additional migrants under Title 42 (which they have said in other contexts is no longer necessary). Hopefully we can start to develop a more sensible immigration approach at the federal level. In the meantime, Chicago is a wonderful and welcoming city. We will do our best to help people in need.

Comment by Lance P. Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 4:03 pm
=I live here and can’t imagine being dropped off in Chicago with my family and not have a place to go, money, or speak the primary language.=

Now imagine the conditions you’re fleeing which make this a much more appealing option.

Comment by Pundent Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 4:06 pm
“If transferring migrants on air-conditioned modes of transportation to other cities within the United States is a human rights violation”

So human trafficking is okay as long as they get air conditioning. Good to know.

“Obviously, Abbott, DeSantis, and Ducey actions are stunts and not productive”

So why are you defending these stunts?

Comment by The Velvet Frog Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 4:25 pm
===If transferring migrants on air-conditioned modes of transportation to other cities within the United States is a human rights violation===

The internal temperature of the vehicle used isn’t one of the elements that determines whether a person consented to be in it or not. You’ve developed a novel kidnapping defense, but not a particularly persuasive one.

Comment by vern Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 4:30 pm
You don’t even bother to acknowledge the main point of my post. The disorder at the border is a direct result of the Biden Administration’s lack of coherent policy. I admit that even as a Democrat.

My secondary point, is that it rings a bit hollow when Pritzker and Lightfoot are only now decrying the situation. The 50 migrants that got transported to Martha’s Vineyard have received more media attention than the millions overwhelming border towns and communities.

Comment by Lance P. Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 7:56 pm
===is a direct result===

… of Republican governors treating human beings like sacks of corn.

It’s sickening.

Please keep up.

Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 8:00 pm
Can comments discuss facts & not opinions. I read some comments & know that they are not factual. If Capital Fax was supposed to serve as an outlet for right wingers or conservative people, then I might need to stop coming here.

Comment by Chris in ChiTown Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 8:45 pm
I’d contend that the 47 migrants who died in the back of a sweltering truck in San Antonio is more sickening than a trip to the rich and famous playground of Martha’s Vineyard.

We need to hold everyone accountable for the situation. Not just shill for our preferred political party. Otherwise problems will never get solved.

Comment by Anonymous Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 8:47 pm
===everyone===

There’s no “both sides” to Republicans choosing to make human beings pawns, to hire videographers to record it, to go on television to seek praise for it.

Stop.

There’s no both sides here. None.

Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 8:50 pm
Treating people as pawns is all politicians and rulers have done for millennia. If you think the average politician cares about anyone else but themselves, I admire your idealism.

Comment by Lance P Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 8:56 pm
===If you think the average politician cares about anyone else but themselves, I admire your idealism.===

And I’m embarrassed for you and your lack of humanity.

So, there’s that.

Good luck.

Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 8:58 pm
The JFK library post is very relevant for at least some of this. It appears similar promises to those on the reverse freedom rides may have been made to those sent to Martha’s Vinyard. It is mentioned in multiple news articles.

Comment by DTownResident Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 9:12 pm
There’s no “both sides” to Republicans choosing to make human beings pawns, to hire videographers to record it, to go on television to seek praise for it.

Stop.

There’s no both sides here. None.

Do you hold the same view of the Democratic Governors who ok’d the bussing techniques referenced in the 1962 news clip. Democrats. All of them.

Not sayin just sayin

Comment by Own the Libs Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 10:32 pm
===Do you hold the same view of the Democratic Governors who ok’d the bussing techniques referenced in the 1962 news clip. Democrats. All of them.

Not sayin just sayin===

Utter ignorance and actual stupidity.

Look up the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the Democratic Party.

You *literally* can’t be this ignorant, unless it’s purposely ignorant.

Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 10:39 pm
1964 Civil RIghts Act? The Federal Law right? I wasn’t aware that Governors were allowed to vote on Federal Legislation. Anyway Democratic Govs sent black Americans north in the 60’s. Not Republican, Democrat. Maybe civics isn’t your strong suit

Comment by Own the Libs Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 10:59 pm
===Do you hold the same view of the Democratic Governors who ok’d the bussing techniques referenced in the 1962 news clip. Democrats. All of them.===

This is like saying Republicans now are the same as the Republicans of Lincoln, like actually Abraham Lincoln.

The Democrats, after 1964, eventually weeded out radical racist thinking members, but it took nearly a decade plus to fully see a sea of change where Nixon in 1968, and again in 1972, used the fears of race in those states to full effect.

It’s not that the thinking changed, it’s that party acceptance changed, and along with that, a flipping of “party”, not ideology.

The Democrats eradicated those like a Ron DeSantis thinkers, will the 2022 GOP eradicate these thinkers too.

You’re not grasping the thinking is the same, but those thinkers feel so at home in Trump’s GOP. Otherwise, they’d still be Democrats

Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 11:02 pm
===Anyway Democratic Govs sent black Americans north in the 60’s.===

That was 60 years ago

Join us in the 21st century.

Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 11:03 pm
===Maybe civics isn’t your strong suit===

I guess anything to help racist type thinking… go back 60+ years and your only takeaway is a party affiliation?

Again, keep up… the watershed of the 1964 Civil Rights Act put on notice Dems that wanted to continue segregation, racial inequality, and a belief that race and privilege is white

Imagine having to embrace racist thinking of the 1960 to “whatabout” an accepting of racist thoughts?

Join the 21st century.

Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Sep 15, 22 @ 11:08 pm
I am sorry, but I want to point out: if you mention something for your comment, please read the item first. The John F. Kennedy Library’s tweet has a news article. The news article is about how the White Citizen Council (not Democrat governors) sent Blacks to northern areas after providing the Black people false information.

Comment by Chris in ChiTown Friday, Sep 16, 22 @ 3:32 am
===not Democrat governors===

Yep.

The silence or alleged quietness about it during these times is noted.

What is alarming too is the thought that racist thinking to such things is “bipartisan”, when in realty to the 1960s to the 2020s the shift to party’s identities and the overt thoughts towards race has devolved the GOP from the “silent majority”/“southern strategy” to a party now that embraces not “immigration” but worse towards what is embraces about races and being white.

It’s as though those committees in the 60s have moved comfortably into governors’ offices

That’s my takeaway.

Comment by Oswego Willy Friday, Sep 16, 22 @ 8:28 am
“I’d contend that the 47 migrants who died in the back of a sweltering truck in San Antonio is more sickening than a trip to the rich and famous playground of Martha’s Vineyard. ”

Listen to yourself. Really, using human beings as props in a publicity stunt is OK as long as they end up at a “rich and famous playground”. And it’s absurd to compare the two.

Comment by The Velvet Frog Friday, Sep 16, 22 @ 11:16 am

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