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* The ADL describes Nicholas Fuentes as a “white supremacist leader and organizer and podcaster who seeks to forge a white nationalist alternative to the mainstream GOP.” He was a featured speaker at the “We Will Not Comply” (with COVID mandates) rally in Springfield last weekend. If any reporters showed up, they didn’t write about it that I could find. Here’s his 37-minute speech in full, but just remember what type of person this is before clicking play…
The frantic chanting of “Christ is king!” was particularly repulsive.
…Adding… Brief bit from WICS…
The closing speaker, Nick Fuentes, a far-right activist, gave them more momentum before they all left; making it well known there is no way he is getting a vaccine.
“They are going to knock my door down, kill my dog and shoot me before I take a COVID-19 vaccine,” Fuentes said.
* More disturbing video, much of which is NSFW…
* Culture War Criminal Vs Beardson Beardly & Baked Alaska Spergout @ We Will Not Comply Springfield
* Chatting It Up With America First Groypers And A Based Boomer
* Dr. Science Denier Specializes In Prescribing Red Pills
* Antifa Feminist SJWs SHAMED Out Of America First We Will Not Comply Event
* Beardson Beardly Pressed By AF MAGA Boomer Lady At Anti Coof Mandate Rally Springfield
That’s a whole lot of Illinois Nazis.
posted by Rich Miller
Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:10 am
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And his security guy is a white dude with a buzzcut.
Comment by Uncle Merkin Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:14 am
Nick Fuentes wants to repeal the 19th amendment (bar women from voting) and ban race mixing in America, he is despicable.
Comment by Lake Villa township Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:14 am
Who is the guy in the black leather double-breasted overcoat and fedora?
The audio quality is poor, but I heard some tourettic exclamations about “kayfabe” and “I’m not larping” ad nauseam.
Comment by Sharia Capo Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:18 am
Let’s be very, very, VERY clear who the ILGOP is… from Chairman Tracy himself;
=== So, whatever your political leanings, wherever you live - if you want to fight corruption, restore fiscal sanity, grow our economy, and stand for law and order - you’re on our team. It’s time to suit up, work together, and bring home some wins for the people of Illinois.”===
- Chairman Tracy, Feb 6, 2021
These folks are more than welcome in Chairman Tracy’s ILGOP
When these folks are embraced… believe they are the base.
Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:19 am
It’s amazing that in 2021, literal Nazis are infiltrating the GOP and being welcomed with open arms.
Scary.
Comment by So_Ill Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:25 am
- These folks are more than welcome in Chairman Tracy’s ILGOP-
Pretty ridiculous, even for you OW.
Comment by HD114 Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:27 am
=== Pretty ridiculous===
Pretty ridiculous that Chairman Tracy has yet to chastise either Miller, the one in congress and one in the statehouse… maybe Tracy is too busy… and I’ve yet to hear anything negative from Tracy pertaining to racist thinkers and being part of a GOP narrative.
If you had, you would’ve cited it already.
It’s ridiculous to think Tracy is too busy to comment on this.
Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:29 am
I know a lot of Republicans and none of them are anything like this nut.
Comment by Back to the Future Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:30 am
I hate Illinois Nazis. /obligatory
Comment by jimbo Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:31 am
Why is it that all these little j-offs always look like their hands have never seen a blister?
Comment by Flyin' Elvis'-Utah Chapter Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:31 am
- HD114 -
Remember, that was the approved quote Tracy selected after becoming chair and after January 6th too…
But let’s just stick with these folks for this post.
Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:31 am
Fuentes is hardly an Anglo-Saxon surname.
Comment by Cubs in '16 Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:31 am
It was covered a bit by Channel 20, WICS
https://newschannel20.com/news/local/anti-vaccine-protestors-rally-at-state-capitol
And I think on WCIA (mostly what I watch) there was an interview with a woman at the rally who is hoping to run against Tammy Duckworth. The reporter asked her if she accepted support from the groups at the rally, expressly meaning Fuentes. The candidate-hopeful responded “Sure.” I wish I could remember it better, and I could not find the clip. Maybe someone here has a better memory than me.
Comment by bkhartbnjo Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:31 am
The Republican base
Comment by Precinct Captain Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:31 am
I know a lot of Repubs who are a lot like this nut.
Comment by Flyin' Elvis'-Utah Chapter Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:32 am
Elwood: “Illinois Nazis.”
Jake: “I hate Illinois Nazis.”
== Pretty ridiculous, even for you OW. ==
How so? The next time Tracy explicitly denounces people like this will be the first time.
Comment by thunderspirit Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:32 am
We can find crazy rants on the left as well. Not saying it is right, just saying. This is a fringe actor. Nothing more. The Republicans I know want the best for Illinois–they believe in lighter taxes, lighter regulation and yes, personal responsibility.
Comment by Seaver41 Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:35 am
HD, OW is on target. The GOP has a wink, wink, nod, nod relationship with these folks. The receipts are piled high.
Comment by Norseman Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:35 am
Elwood: Illinois nazis pssh
Jake: I hate Illinois nazis
Seems fitting here, who would’ve thought 40+ years later that quote would still be a thing?
Comment by Frank talks Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:37 am
This used to be the fringe, now it’s mainstream Republicans. @backtothefuture, I know a lot of republicans too, and many are like this. I didn’t think they were, but they really are.
Comment by Steve Rogers Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:39 am
Show me where he explicitly supports these people Norseman.
Comment by HD114 Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:40 am
NF: “This is a movement God is behind.”
“For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” (Galatians 5:14)
Where’s the Bluesmobile when we need it?
Comment by Streator Curmudgeon Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:41 am
=The GOP has a wink, wink, nod, nod relationship with these folks.=
I think that was made pretty clear by the Miller’s (Chris and Mary) and the ILGOP’s refusal to condemn their words or actions. Because when it comes to Nazi comparisons or an association with the 3%ers nuance doesn’t come into play. You can’t tell me that the behavior of the Miller’s is somehow acceptable but Fuentes’ isn’t.
Comment by Pundent Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:43 am
Are all Democrats Kim Foxx replicants?
I think not. To equate Republicans with Nazis is to equate Democrats as anarchists.
Neither is the case and we debase ourselves pillorizing those who have a different view of governance.
Comment by Seaver41 Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:43 am
===Show me where he explicitly supports these people Norseman.===
LOL
Show us where he condemns them, and the Millers.
You’re not good at this.
===I know a lot of Republicans and none of them are anything like this nut.===
Have they condemned these folks or wanted them out of the GOP?
I’d like to know… which leaders are condemning
It’s not Tracy. His own quote is passive to racist thinkers…
Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:48 am
These are exactly the people I think of when I think of mainstream Republicans. If this isn’t who you want representing your party, it’s a problem you need to address.
Comment by Cheryl44 Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:48 am
===Are all Democrats Kim Foxx replicants?===
No, but Democrats are often pressed to talk about her. As they should be.
Comment by Rich Miller Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:54 am
===Are all Democrats Kim Foxx replicants?===
Republicans can’t condemn racists… “because Kim Foxx”?
Is this a gag? A joke?
Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:55 am
===debase ourselves pillorizing those who have a different view of governance.===
“Let the racist thinkers speak”
Is that how this works? Huh.
Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:58 am
@Seaver41: “We can find crazy rants on the left as well.” -
I call baloney.
Name one single liberal who has spoken at a state rally calling for white supremacy. Heck, at any state rally, not just in Illinois.
I won’t hold my breath.
For those claiming they know Republicans who aren’t like this, listen harder. The ones you think aren’t like this aren’t publicly denouncing Fuentes et al either. Rather, their anti-vax, anti-rhetoric echoes Fuentes and his ilk right down to their threats against volunteer school board members and other local public officials.
Comment by The Other Rich Hill Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 10:58 am
=== We can find crazy rants on the left as well. Not saying it is right, just saying.===
Whataboutism in this instance is acceptance of the message in this post.
Otherwise you’d just condemn whatever comes, no matter the side.
Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 11:02 am
=== they believe in lighter taxes, lighter regulation and yes, personal responsibility.===
Are they condemning folks like in this post or are they passively let it slide?
You didn’t say.
Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 11:04 am
Meanwhile: many more of us were at a reproductive rights rally over at the old state capitol. There were also signs there that said “my body, my choice” at that rally.
Comment by bkhartbnjo Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 11:09 am
=We can find crazy rants on the left as well.=
And? Start your own blog then and post them.
=Kim Foxx=
LOL. Let me know when the ILGOP condemns these guys or the Miller’s or Jan 6.
Comment by JS Mill Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 11:10 am
Can I just point out that the issue people have with Kim Foxx is not that she is into hate speech? It is that she is perceived to have a light hand against crime. That is not the same as being a white Christian nationalist.
One is a policy dispute. The other a values dispute.
Comment by cermak_rd Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 11:16 am
Were I a Christian, I would be really angry at the use of Christian rhetoric at the event. It can easily be perceived that all Christians are like this. I happen to know some who are not.
Comment by cermak_rd Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 11:24 am
=They are going to knock my door down, kill my dog and shoot me before I take a COVID-19 vaccine, Fuentes said.=
Alternatively, they could just lock his doors and quarantine him. That would prevent the spread of disease, and hate speech.
Comment by H-W Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 11:26 am
OW makes a good point about some GOP leaders.
Comment by Back to the Future Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 11:28 am
-Where’s the Bluesmobile when we need it?-
It was at the Rt 66 car show two weekends ago, now where is a flying Ford Pinto. That is my question.
Comment by AnonymousFool Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 11:29 am
“These guys believe that non-white people are subhumans who should be purged to create an all-white America and Kim Foxx thinks that there should be fewer people in jails and prisons, therefore both sides are the same.”
Some of you folks are telling on yourselves.
– MrJM
Comment by MisterJayEm Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 11:36 am
== This is a fringe actor. ==
White replacement theory used to be a fringe theory. Now it’s becoming mainstream Republican. My Republican friends have clearly moved to the right in the last decade. (Yes, Democrats have clearly moved to the left.)
Comment by anon2 Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 11:37 am
Jeanne Ives ran an ad considered racist, xenophobic, and promoting hate.
She nearly beat Bruce Rauner running that kind of ad… no percussions.
When people vote who they are… and after Rauner’s win, what was the cry… Rauner lost the base of the party
It’s not hard to find… in this post… no outrage by GOP leaders… Tracy’s own quote in February 2021… Mary Miller… This is not the party of Edgar, GHR, Jim Ryan, jbt, or Loleta…
Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 11:43 am
Until the Chairman of the GOP loudly announces that Nazis, White supremacists, Christian supremacists, hate militias and succession supporters are not welcome or wanted in the Republican Party and will not be supported if they win a primary, I think it’s fair to say Fuentes & his friends are good Republicans.
Comment by northsider (the original) Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 11:56 am
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Some of you folks are telling on yourselves.
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It’s funny to me that when presented with clear evidence of _exactly_ how racist, nazi-adjacent and extreme their party is, their first response is to bring up a black woman they have an irrational distaste for. It’s not even good whataboutism.
Comment by dan l Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 12:00 pm
==I know a lot of Republicans and none of them are anything like this nut. ==
Fair, but what is it about the Republican party that make Fuentes, Charlie Kirk, and their ilk feel so welcomed? Something is drawing these people in, and it isn’t the economic policies. You should ask the Republicans you know.
Comment by supplied_demand Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 12:05 pm
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Fair, but what is it about the Republican party that make Fuentes, Charlie Kirk, and their ilk feel so welcomed? Something is drawing these people in, and it isn’t the economic policies. You should ask the Republicans you know.
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It’s also not anything new. It’s just that these guys have become ‘mainstream’ republicans and they can’t keep them quiet anymore. I guess it’s similar to how the GOP couldn’t keep the country folk quiet after the rise of the tea party, now they can’t keep the white supremacists/christian identity types quiet after trump.
Comment by dan l Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 12:09 pm
-I guess it’s similar to how the GOP couldn’t keep the country folk quiet after the rise of the tea party, now they can’t keep the white supremacists/christian identity types quiet after trump.-
The Venn diagram for these two populations is one giant circle.
Comment by AnonymousFool Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 12:13 pm
==I guess it’s similar to how the GOP couldn’t keep the country folk quiet after the rise of the tea party, now they can’t keep the white supremacists/christian identity types quiet after trump.==
The Tea Party folks became the white supremacists/Christian identity types. They were always that way, they used to just pretend to care about government spending and taxes.
Trump gave them permission to bring the white supremacy out in the open without fear of repercussions.
Comment by So_Ill Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 12:16 pm
——
The Venn diagram for these two populations is one giant circle.
——
You’re probably right.
Comment by dan l Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 12:19 pm
I know these folks may think differently. However, can someone point to the Jews and concentrations camps these folks set-up. Thanks
Comment by Facts Please Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 12:20 pm
===I know these folks may think differently===
Just can’t condemn them, can ya…
===can someone point to the…===
… the radical ideology that led to what you want seen in existing?
Deciding to not condemn these folks, “because infrastructure” or worse…
I do appreciate you telling me who you are. It’s helpful.
Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 12:26 pm
==I know these folks may think differently. However, can someone point to the Jews and concentrations camps these folks set-up. Thanks==
Their mindset, Nicholas Fuentes, allowed that type of thing to happen. That he would espouse the same kind of thinking is repugnet to most people. He should be condemned and shunned by the average person with a set of morals. And the GOP or their supporters should not be giving him any sort of platform, least they get tagged with the stench.
the answer to hate speech is more speech, denouncing it, refuting it.
Comment by Todd Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 12:36 pm
===He should be condemned and shunned by the average person with a set of morals. And the GOP or their supporters should not be giving him any sort of platform, least they get tagged with the stench.
the answer to hate speech is more speech, denouncing it, refuting it.===
This is the correct and “only” answer.
Less than this… is allowing a party to devolve and worse… feeding to thoughts of what could happen, in large areas of governing … if left unchecked.
Well said, - Todd -
Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 12:40 pm
=== … and yes, personal responsibility. ===
That’s a hoot. COVID has clearly indicated that the majority of the GOP doesn’t believe in personal responsibility. They believe in selfishness. To them personal responsibility is code for attacking minorities.
True personal responsibility is doing what your supposed to be doing as part of the community.
Comment by Norseman Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 1:11 pm
==I know a lot of Republicans and none of them are anything like this nut. == Is that like saying some of your best friends are Republicans?
Comment by Skeptic Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 1:38 pm
Personal responsibility… like masking and vaxxing up to stop the pandemic?
Comment by LakeCo Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 1:42 pm
==can someone point to the Jews and concentrations camps these folks set-up.==
When Mary Miller can utter the phrase “Hitler was right on one thing.” and not be greeted by total silence or boos…you better take a hard look at the people in your party.
Comment by Jocko Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 2:00 pm
Fuentes couldn’t bust a grape…rabble rousing punk.
Comment by Dotnonymous Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 2:19 pm
===White replacement theory used to be a fringe theor
It’s now common on Fox News prime time.
Comment by ArchPundit Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 2:27 pm
===This is a fringe actor. Nothing more. The Republicans I know want the best for Illinois–they believe in lighter taxes, lighter regulation and yes, personal responsibility.
Really? He has done multiple events with Paul Gosar. He showed up to a GOP event in the Quad Cities. What would distinguish him from Mary Miller?
Comment by ArchPundit Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 2:34 pm
“These people are nothing like the Republicans whom I know (but if they can somehow help lower our taxes, then I guess we’ll tolerate them).”
Such principled conservatives.
– MrJM
Comment by MisterJayEm Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 3:02 pm
How big is a horde?
Comment by walker Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 3:15 pm
===How big is a horde?===
More than a gaggle, but less than a mob.
Comment by 47th Ward Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 3:53 pm
47
I would disagree a horde would be large than both. A gagle of say geese is a dozen or more. A mob would be at least a couple dozen but for likely starting at 50 a horde would be something much large that 100
Comment by Todd Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 4:28 pm
It’s an amazing world when smart people are the enemy and dumb people are considered credible…
Comment by Gary Hart Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 4:39 pm
Abe statue was looking down on this display. I imagined tears running down his face.
Comment by danray Thursday, Oct 7, 21 @ 6:20 pm