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All laws can be changed. You'd have to vote against every bill if that's the philosophy https://t.co/g4jIyJrx6D

— Rich Miller (@capitolfax) September 1, 2021

What is goofy Rich is to believe that once the leverage to negotiate keeping Prairie State open is gone, that the green environmentalists won’t demand Prairie State be closed sooner.

— Terri Bryant (@SenTerriBryant1) September 1, 2021

Then how do you keep the plant open if the potential for future unfavorable laws is the issue? Adjourn the General Assembly forever? Require legislators to obtain approval from past bill sponsors if they want to amend their laws?

Also, almost all of Sen. Bryant’s bills would amend existing laws. The horror.

Look, I am not a fan of the bill that passed early this morning. There are sound reasons to be against it. This ain’t one of them.

posted by Rich Miller
Wednesday, Sep 1, 21 @ 2:57 pm

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Does anyone know why the municipal owners of Prairies State haven’t directed the co-op that they own that (unfortunately) owns a coal plant to develop utility-scale solar that will get them their power at a cheaper rate? Have they even tried yet? Or done the math? Or asked for some startup money in this bill so they can go ahead and build some cheaper, cleaner power than coal and save their municipal taxpayers money?

Comment by Dan Johnson Wednesday, Sep 1, 21 @ 3:21 pm
– Also, almost all of Sen. Bryant’s bills would amend existing laws.–

I certainly hope Senator Bryant sought the approval of the initial sponsors of all her proposed changes to their existing laws. Otherwise, who does she think she is changing what previous General Assemblies did?
This is not how democracy works.
Oh.
Wait.

#ChangeIsBad

Comment by CWLP fly ash engineer Wednesday, Sep 1, 21 @ 3:23 pm
“one general assembly is not bound by agreements made by other general assemblies.”

What? So, every general assembly has to pass every law ever made all over again?

Comment by Steve Rogers Wednesday, Sep 1, 21 @ 3:29 pm
Looks like you reenforced Sen. Bryant’s point which is all laws can be changed. In this case those negotiating a so called hard date should not be trusted to guarantee a hard date.

Comment by Southern Belle Wednesday, Sep 1, 21 @ 3:31 pm
===Looks like you reenforced Sen. Bryant’s point which is all laws can be changed===

That was her reason for voting against the bill. If you oppose bills that can be changed down the road, you’d have to vote against all bills.

Comment by Rich Miller Wednesday, Sep 1, 21 @ 3:34 pm
===Does anyone know why the municipal owners of Prairies State haven’t directed the co-op that they own that (unfortunately) owns a coal plant to develop utility-scale solar that will get them their power at a cheaper rate?===

Their contracts with Prairie State are such that they pay a percentage of Prairie State’s capital and operating costs. In exchange they can take the power if they want it. If they don’t take the power, they still pay. Having Prairie State or somebody else build wind or solar or whatever does not solve their problem of paying Prairie State.

Comment by A Lump of Coal Wednesday, Sep 1, 21 @ 3:36 pm
In 1969, Illinois lawmakers approved and Republican Gov. Ogilvie signed a law creating a state income tax at the rate of 2.5 percent.

Alas, there was nothing in that law binding future General Assemblies to that rate.

In a move straight out of Terri Bryant’s nightmare scenario, Terri Bryant comes along in 2017, ignores the 1969 agreement and votes to raise taxes to 4.95 percent.

The lesson: leave the status quo alone in Springfield.

Comment by CWLP fly ash engineer Wednesday, Sep 1, 21 @ 3:52 pm
Rich, you don’t like the energy bill the senate passed? Out of curiosity, what don’t you like?

Comment by Atlas Wednesday, Sep 1, 21 @ 4:26 pm
The irony is that “laws can be changed” is the reason legislators often vote *for* a bill. “I don’t like everything in this bill, but we can come back and make changes.”

Comment by JoanP Wednesday, Sep 1, 21 @ 4:27 pm
…”the GREEN environmentalists”…the horror!

Comment by JM Wednesday, Sep 1, 21 @ 5:09 pm
She has a point. Those green environmentalists are the worst kind of environmentalists.

Comment by Friendly Bob Adams Wednesday, Sep 1, 21 @ 6:21 pm
God forbid anyone try to stop us from gleefully poisoning our environment.

Comment by Candy Dogood Wednesday, Sep 1, 21 @ 6:29 pm
We did not send the sharpest tack in the pack to represent the District in Sen. Bryant.

Comment by So of I-64 Wednesday, Sep 1, 21 @ 9:21 pm
===what don’t you like? ===

It was a punt, not a real bill.

Comment by Rich Miller Wednesday, Sep 1, 21 @ 11:47 pm
Has it occurred to anyone that the Governor does not really want to pass anything as he does not want to run on fee increases?

Comment by Possible heart of the matter Thursday, Sep 2, 21 @ 9:17 am
=== Has it occurred to anyone that the Governor does not really want to pass anything as he does not want to run on fee increases?===

Explain how that is relevant to what the Senate actually did.

Thanks.

Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Sep 2, 21 @ 9:19 am

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