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posted by Rich Miller
Thursday, Oct 22, 20 @ 4:29 am
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How many seats is Madigan projected to pick up next month?
Comment by Flyin' Elvis'-Utah Chapter Thursday, Oct 22, 20 @ 8:56 am
Current GOP trend — cannot win legislative, or executive, so go judicial.
Comment by walker Thursday, Oct 22, 20 @ 9:13 am
== Current GOP trend — cannot win legislative, or executive, so go judicial.==
And it looks like they will
Comment by Woody Thursday, Oct 22, 20 @ 9:23 am
Dave McKinney’s WBEZ story on Kilbride yesterday is very good. Kilbride addresses the Madigan question.
https://www.wbez.org/stories/its-about-one-party-rule-why-illinois-supreme-court-justice-tom-kilbride-is-in-the-fight-of-his-career/0fc55d2d-b4db-4ebd-8152-d17d4fd5577c
Comment by Steve Rogers Thursday, Oct 22, 20 @ 9:30 am
While I know that politics and bean bag, there is one part of this ad that clearly, in my mind, crosses the line. Its brief, but unmistakable. Its a shot of a person putting a stack of $50 bills into his coat pocket, while discussing how Kilbride “cast the deciding vote”. If false light claims in political campaigns were possible, under the NYT v. Sullivan standard, this would clearly IMO be grounds. Even for me, who loves rough and tumble political ads, this crosses the line.
Comment by depressed in politics Thursday, Oct 22, 20 @ 9:32 am
“And it looks like they will”
Where are those precinct results?
Comment by Flyin' Elvis'-Utah Chapter Thursday, Oct 22, 20 @ 9:38 am
Way too heavy on the drum. tone down the soundtrack.
Comment by me Thursday, Oct 22, 20 @ 9:45 am
I give it a B for effectiveness. It is concise and gives voters at least some basis for making a vote in a type of race that many care/know little about. Whether it is true or not is another matter.
Comment by Jibba Thursday, Oct 22, 20 @ 9:45 am
I give it an M for Meh.
Comment by Chicago Cynic Thursday, Oct 22, 20 @ 9:51 am
Is there a GOP ad that does not mention/blame Madigan for everything? Get some new material please. The Geico and Lib Mutual producers might be available.
Comment by zatoichi Thursday, Oct 22, 20 @ 10:03 am
Who is the person most responsible for everything wrong with Illinois politics over the past few decades?
Comment by Lucky Pierre Thursday, Oct 22, 20 @ 10:05 am
Lucky Fool,
Again, how many seats is Madigan projected to pick up next month?
Comment by Flyin' Elvis'-Utah Chapter Thursday, Oct 22, 20 @ 10:11 am
=== Who is the person most responsible for everything wrong with Illinois politics over the past few decades?===
“By nearly every measure, Illinois is worse off with Bruce Rauner… “
Governors… own.
Election results show it.
To the post?
It’s a B+, A-
“Why?”
The thing about “Fire Madigan”, if you can define, clearly, who you are and what you’re about, the falloff seems to line up with the mitigating factor denting, not damaging.
In the statewide proxy of Mendoza/Munger, as a good proxy example, the proxy of both Rauner AND Madigan, Mendoza as a candidate was able to even the message.
Kilbride has no foil like Mendoza did, and Kilbride as a known entity was low, so tying him to Madigan resonates better than typical GA races, with folks able to say and be who they are.
If Kilbride goes down, I think the impact of Madigan is big to the exact relationship to Kilbride’s unknown.
It’s a B+, A-
Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Oct 22, 20 @ 10:22 am
Keep in mind the Nos will also make the Pension Slashers happy in the years ahead. Griffy, the LaHoods. Roy Moore backers will do their happy dance
Comment by Annonin' Thursday, Oct 22, 20 @ 10:28 am
I agree with OW logic, not necessarily the ad. It will be very easy to vote no. People do not know their Supreme Court Justice by and large. They don’t like Madigan, they don’t like the direction of Illinois and they are probably looking for some one-to blame. It is an easy no vote. I predict a loss.
Comment by me Thursday, Oct 22, 20 @ 10:30 am
Do you really think things are better in Illinois now than under Bruce Rauner?
Tell us more about how the situation in Illinois has improved now that Democrats control all 3 branches of government.
Has record outmigration stopped?
Has our #47 ranking in unemployment improved?
Has the budget stabilized or are we the only state in the union borrowing from the Fed currently?
Has trust in state government been restored or is it at an all time low with the indictments and federal investigations?
Comment by Lucky Pierre Thursday, Oct 22, 20 @ 10:41 am
=== Keep in mind the Nos will also make the Pension Slashers happy in the years ahead. Griffy, the LaHoods. Roy Moore backers will do their happy dance ===
Wasn’t the last pension case before the Illinois Supreme Court decided by a 7-0 opinion?
Comment by Unlearned Hand Thursday, Oct 22, 20 @ 10:42 am
I give it a D. For disingenuous, defamatory, and disgusting.
Comment by Is it 2021 yet Thursday, Oct 22, 20 @ 11:19 am
===Do you really think things are better in Illinois now than under Bruce Rauner?===
Just imagine what life would be like right now if Bruce was reelected.
Actually, don’t.
Comment by Rich Miller Thursday, Oct 22, 20 @ 11:21 am
=== Do you really think things are better in Illinois now than under Bruce Rauner?===
It took a pandemic to make things worse than the Rauner years.
K? That bad.
Global. Pandemic.
Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Oct 22, 20 @ 11:26 am
=== Tell us more about how the situation in Illinois has improved now that Democrats control all 3 branches of government.
Has record outmigration stopped?
Has our #47 ranking in unemployment improved?
Has the budget stabilized or are we the only state in the union borrowing from the Fed currently?
Has trust in state government been restored or is it at an all time low with the indictments and federal investigations?===
How is it that Raunerites can’t win elections if all you say is true?
Don’t say “Gerrymandering”, Rauner lost by the largest margin a sitting Republican ever lost… in 100 years.
Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Oct 22, 20 @ 11:28 am
Adding to OW, Rauner tried to get off the ticket and found no takers.
Comment by don the legend Thursday, Oct 22, 20 @ 12:17 pm